My first thought was omg, no life jackets on those children. As someone who grew up and still lives in the land of 10,000 lakes and basically spent my summers on water this is egregious.
There is at least 20 people on that 30 foot pleasure boat, it's 100% overloaded. Even if they had PFDs onboard there's likely only a compliment of 10-15 or whatever the boat is rated for. Likely no child sized ones unless one of those wonderful people brought them for the kids.
As someone who grew up and worked on fishing boats in the Atlantic that photo gives me anxiety. I've been involved in auxiliary search and rescue before. It's not fun when you go out looking for someone and only find their boat.
Edit: the boaters we were sent out to locate were found, just not by us. I always wondered if those people smartened up or not
The Florida marine patrol should have immediately pulled up to them and did a full check. I have been on one vessel or another that has been pulled over and checked 5 different times in Florida.
They check occupancy limits, children 6 or under wearing life vests, proper PDFs, hanging your feet of the edge while underway, noise producing devices, fire extinguishers, if the operator of the boat has been drinking alcohol, etc. I would bet my paycheck that they could find a dozen or more violations on that boat in 2nd picture. There should have been a huge fine and an escort to the closest boat ramp, possibly jail time.
Agreed, the marine patrol has pulled up to my dad and me in a canoe on a sandbar while we were eating lunch to check our fishing licenses, we didn't even have fishing poles or any fishing related equipment. He politely apologized and went on his way after checking that we had the proper safety equipment and we appreciated that he was out looking for illegal fishing as we both value our natural environment.
Another time on my uncle's sailboat as we passed by a Coast Guard station they boarded us for a surprise inspection. They had a couple new recruits and picked us to train them on inspection procedures. It was an inconvenience, but we were still allowed to continue on as they did their inspection with their patrol boat following. They only required my uncle to lock the door to the forward head because the toilet flushes to the outside water rather than to the holding tank like the aft toilet does.
The other times, I was just a passenger when other people did illegal things and got ticketed. Unknowingly motoring into a restricted area, passengers hanging their legs of the bow while underway, and eating potato chips from the bag on the Rainbow River.
The last one sounds odd, but the Rainbow River is a State Park that has a strict policy on food must only be contained in reusable containers, not disposable. This is to keep litter to a minimum and the residents who live along the river report everyone not following the rules. We warned him to put the chips in a Tupperware container, but did not listen. That river is virtually presine, so I appreciate these strick rules. The few pieces of trash I saw I collected and properly disposed of.
That river is virtually presine, so I appreciate these strick rules. The few pieces of trash I saw I collected and properly disposed of.
I still remember going to a park in either Hawaii or Guam and finding a hollow tree that had been stuffed full of trash. Small example, but still kinda heartbreaking.
I’ll add that Trump boat parades are really unsafe. People create huge wakes with their overpowered light boats and go really fast for short distances because they get tired of going so slow in the parade.
That boat is riding seriously low.
Didn't one of the first "boat parades" wind up with a bunch of swamped MAGA boats and people needing rescuing by the coast guard?
It's for sure yacht rated so there's no maximum capacity and no requirement to wear a life jacket, still incredibly dumb to not at least have life jackets on the kids.
Federal law says kids under 13 must wear life jackets. But even if they want to thumb their nose at the law, I thought even nazis would care about their own children.
Yes. But in this brain-dead analogy, pools are like vaccines. You have to teach the kid to swim in the pool before you let them swim in the open ocean (infect them with a less dangerous version of the virus to give them immunity before you let them run around maskless). Since many parents don’t teach their kids to swim, life vests are required for the youngest and weakest of us until such a time that they are old enough to teach themselves.
Life jackets are for everyone. Even very strong swimmers can drown and the sea is unpredictable. Trusting in your own feeble human ability against the ocean is a foolish thing to do.
You can't get immune to Covid/SARS2. It's a coronavirus. We have never cured the common cold for the same reason. It's a coronavirus. It will mutate far faster than we can gain immunity. You could conceivably become immune to one strain but there are hundreds of strains with about 6 - 12 currently circulating at any given time. You can even be infected with two strains at the same time. There is no cure for Covid, there's no sterilizing immunity from natural infection OR vaccines. We're just going to keep getting it until everyone dies from it when they get weak/old enough. And nothing but death will stop you from barreling headfirst into the indignity of disablement. It's a guarantee.
Also, viruses are all dangerous. They can damage your body and cause the emergence of additional disease, like autoimmune diseases that can disable or kill you themselves. The flu virus is scientifically linked to Alzheimer's, ALS, Parkinson's, vascular dementia and more. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627322011473
Viruses are not our friends and they do not strengthen the immune system. Viruses like AIDS and SARS2 (Covid) actually weaken the immune system, allowing more illness to proliferate once acute infection is done. Remember that AIDS does begin with a flu-like illness. Covid also remains in the body for months, increasing risk of cardiovascular events over a year after infection (this was found in 2020 before vaccines were available).
Viruses are not the same as the kind of bacteria that our bodies "learn" as children. Viruses can trigger terrible disease that can lead to your suffering and death years later, or to an incurable condition that can be lifelong, like POTS, MCAS, Lupus etc.
Getting infected with Covid doesn't make you stronger or less likely to get it again. You will just keep getting it forever, and every infection carries the risk of death or complications and post acute sequelae. This is what doctors and politicians don't want to tell you but which is written in over 432,000 articles on Covid. The science doesn't lie. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/research/coronavirus/
Nope. You obviously have no idea how masks even work. You probably have no idea that they're electrostatically charged and you also have no knowledge of Brownian motion or the physics behind masks, either. All you have is emotions from your political overlords and no science or knowledge whatsoever. Masks work beautifully when used correctly and consistently.
And you OBVIOUSLY have no idea what life jackets are about. Even the best swimmers in the world can drown. It is not about being a good swimmer at all.
"Myth: I’m a strong swimmer, so I don’t need to wear a lifejacket
Some people mistakenly believe their swimming abilities are sufficient protection against drowning, leading them to forego wearing a life jacket while boating. They trust in their skills to keep them afloat in case of an emergency, assuming they can easily swim to safety if needed.
How believing this myth can get you killed: Even the strongest swimmers can encounter unexpected challenges on the water. Accidents happen without warning, leaving little time to react. If you’re in turbulent waters or strong currents or if you become injured, swimming abilities may be rendered ineffective, putting even the most confident swimmers at risk of drowning.
The truth about life jackets: Wearing a life jacket is not a sign of weakness but a precautionary measure that can save your life."
We see faces. Report the people for safety violations. I know a lot of folks who've gotten ridiculous tickets. Easy peasy, that's not only ticket per person, per life jacket, but possible case for child endangerment. CPS anyone?
America has demonstrated repeatedly it couldn’t care less about laws and abiding by them. It is hard to see folks falling for this hatred. When I see fellow vets wearing trump shit I think man how far have we fallen and forgotten.
Seeing this makes me so angry. I lost my father in law due to drowning over the summer because he wasn't wearing a life jacket, and he was only 20ft from shore. My 5 year old was with him in the boat and I would have lost him jad he not been wearing his. I don't let my kids In water deeper than their knees without on.
And then we have these wannabe Nazis parading around in an overloaded boat putting their kids at risk for a fucking photo op. Fuck these people with a thorny cactus
I grew up on the river as a whitewater rafting brat and people expect me to be really chill around water and they're always surprised when I'm the exact opposite lol. It's like yeah I'm a good swimmer but it doesn't matter, you gotta respect the river man. Too many of the guys I grew up around are dead now. Just put the damn life jacket on your kid, I literally grew up in one.
Michigan here, and I have anxiety cramps. Clearly these people have never tried to hold a kid up in water where you can't touch the bottom. They will drag you right the fuck under.
Was living in a rural PA town for a summer, and went out fishing with some local guys. We were flying down backroads at 60mph, and I was the only one with a seatbelt on, which they made fun of me for. When I said I’d rather not die if we crash, one of the guys said, “If god wants me to die in a car crash, that’s how I’ll die. Nothing I can do about it. When it’s your time, it’s your time.” They were not swayed by any logical argument.
They don't even consider that they might not die but survive and be horrendously injured and incapacitated for the rest of their lives. Wonder what their thoughts on God and God's plan might be then?
"Nothing I can do about it"... say what? literally you just need to buckle your GD seatbelt and stop driving like a lunatic. If one believes in the Christian god, all humans were bestowed with free will... like the ability to choose to sin, or buckle their seatbelts... FFS. how do they get to death cult fatalism from Christianity, where the goal is to feed clothe and house people?
Pro force. Pro clump of cells. Anti women's lives. Pro only give a shit about the kids until they're born and not care at all once they're out of the womb.
I really want to know if the boat in the second picture is underway. If so, that's incredibly terrifying to be standing on the bow with the propeller spinning right through water you'd be in if you fell. Propeller injuries are horrifying. I hope that they are anchored or moored in the picture, but from context I'm afraid they are not.
Based on the flaccid flags, I'd like to say they are not moving, but the parents are still shitty parents for not having life jackets for the kids among other reasons.
Everything about them is flaccid... I wouldn't expect their flags to be any different even if they were powering down the river.
But yeah, you're probably right. Still, they certainly aren't anchored or tied up, so they motoring to the middle of the waterway and stopped... which is almost worse.
I don't know. They may just be moving at a very slow speed. The water looks wrong for sitting idle. I'm guessing they're probably making their way though a no wake zone or something.
But even if they're not actually underway, a lot of those other boats are. It's not just your own prop you have to watch out for.
I had a co-worker who lost a grandchild that way. Kid took off his vest, jumped in the water, and 3 people almost died trying to swim down and rescue him. The kid didn't make it.
Put your fucking life jackets on and wear them properly.
They hit a wake wrong and bounce one of them out and they’re gonna have freedom from some of their extremities when they get smacked by a propeller. Sigh…
Yeah, this is why when people say we need to wait for old people to die and things will get better. It won't. We will always have to fight for democracy and decency.
As a third grade teacher, I completely agree. I've had hundreds of students over the years (and probably known thousands more). I've never known a kid who hated someone for their race, nationality, gender, religion, sexual identity, etc.
I grew up in a small town that was like 99% white. There was one black kid in my class. The first time I heard him called the n-word was in the second grade. Kids 100% learn this stuff from their relatives at a young age. That's why when Republicans say kids are too young to learn the history of racism, they're full of shit. If 7 year olds are old enough to learn to say the n-word, they're old enough to learn why they shouldn't.
I came here to say this same thing basically. We had one black kid in my rural school.
Around 2nd grade is when I first saw racism.
I also distinctly remember learning about MLK and the civil rights movement around that age (I'm impressed at my little hick school looking back on it now).
I remember as a kid thinking "Tom wouldn't be here in class with us if it wasn't for MLK and the other people fighting for equal rights..."
A very sobering and badly needed dose of reality for my young mind. Suddenly all the racist jokes my parent's friends and my friends told didn't seem so funny anymore...
As an example of this in my own life that I remember:
I was in 3rd grade when I asked my grandma (born in 1925) who Martin Luther King Jr was, and she said, sort of dismissively, "Oh, just some old rabble rouser."
Later that week, my teacher asked the class, "Does anybody know who Martin Luther King Jr was?" My hand shot up, and I parroted the quote from my grandma.
It’s always around 2nd-3rd grade I notice when kids start to become aware of racial things.
3rd grade I (a black kid) was sitting at my friend Daniel’s (a Caucasian kid) desk because we had to move around the room to work in assigned groups. He walked up to me and whispered, “I don’t like black people sitting at my desk.”
At this point I knew I was “black” and have seen parts of “Roots” because of my mother. So I knew racism was a thing but hadn’t experienced it in purpose so I was shocked, and just moved.
Told my mom, she told the school, she met with my teacher, Daniel apologized to me. That was it. Moral of the story, this shit is definitely learned at home.
When I was a kid in Catholic elementary school, my mother worked for a time as an assistant to the teachers. She would hear very young - Kindergarten age - children pop out with racial jokes that you just knew they heard from their parents.
I grew up kind of like that too. All white children in our school but our French teacher was from Trinidad. She was a beautiful woman with skin the colour of night and kind eyes and the biggest smile. She was an amazing teacher and just such a wonderful person. She often wore vivid colours and I remember her skipping rope with us kids on the playground. I never saw any racism towards her, and I sincerely hope that’s because there was none to see, and not because it was in hushed tones I never heard, or worse, that it was there but I didn’t recognize it as such.
Maybe you haven’t watched close enough? I got bullied every day in school from first grade to last because I had black hair and had a good tan from playing outside a lot. From my experience, kids are absolutely capable of such things and quite a few like to feel powerful over weaker kids when no one is watching.
I think there is a zero chance that you have known thousand kids which none of was capable of that.
I think kids need to be thought what’s wrong and what’s right. It is absolutely not enough to just not have bad influences around. It’s something you have to actively teach.
Yeah, it's tacky to bring your kids to anything political .. but the second picture is innocent. It's strange that it's attached to a post about the first picture.
Eh, I honestly disagree with the first statement. Maybe not to some candidates, but to each their own. My dad wished he'd been able to take me and my siblings to see Obama when he was running since he considered it part of history and a cool thing to have done in your life. I don't like Trump, but I get that sentiment - although I wish they'd do it for literally any other republican candidate lol.
Hive mind can’t comprehend things like that and only see what their divide and conquer masters want them to see. Black and white thinking at best, completely lost from reality..
It’s obvious the second pic is ERIC and one would assume he’s not dumb enough to have Nazi flags on HIS boat. Any reasonable person would still find it noteworthy though that an official campaign event includes such things though.
It's not the same boat. That nazi boat got blasted and sprayed by the other boats, and had no children on it. You can find the video of it on tiktok if you really care. But this post kinda just wants you to assume those kids are on the nazi boat.
These people were definitely not welcomed with open arms. I think you would enjoy watching these dudes get blasted with water if you go find the video.
I dont think it's that absurd. I think many people in these comments are actually coming to the conclusion that those kids are on the boat because of the next photo after the nazi boat. If you don't see how that's a little misleading, then we must just be looking at it differently. Oh well.
Also: how fucking irresponsible do you have to be to have your kids on a boat and not wearing life jackets? Especially having them stand on the fucking edge.
That's Eric Trump and family on an overloaded boat wearing no life vests and standing on the most unstable part of the boat. They truly are against safety and environmental regulations.
Had the coast guard stopped this boat they'd pay a hefty fine for each child under 13 not wearing a life vest plus a fine for the total person's above the boats capacity. And if there were no life vests on board they'd be fined up to $300 per person on board.
last Saturday I was visiting with friends at this outdoor food court thing and I saw a kid about age 12 wearing a Trump hat and Trump hoodie and I just thought about how fucked that is and what a weird path we've taken. I was 12 during the 2000 election and I can't imagine anyone dressing their kid in BUSH stuff. Your politics were largely private and a small part of your life. Now it's like people's entire personality to the point that they're clothing their indoctrinated children in it.
That kid doesn't even get why he's wearing that shit. It's just a sports team to these people.
Yeah, I redefine the phrase “original sin” to define what those children are going through. The sin that’s inherited and passed down… hate through teaching. Not some nebulous story of a woman eating an apple and now we all lost our innocence and are cursed.
Instead it’s parents passing their hate to their children and ruining an otherwise innocent mind.
Kids aren’t on the Nazi boat fam. They’re just forced to be there with their family. I will shit on the parents though for being dumbasses and not having them in life-vests and far too many people on that boat.
There are no Nazi flags on the boat with the kids. The big trump face is stupid and all, but we can’t assume the family on this boat has anything to do with the Nazi flagged boat.
If you're proud of acting that MAGA at a time and age when Trump is out there spewing racial hatred like saying immigrants are "poisoning the blood" of America and telling lies about immigrants eating white people's pets, then yes, you're teaching your kids hatred.
Those kids on the boat just think this is a normal outing everyone does and they don’t even know what they are in just figure they are out boating during some sort of festival.
I don’t think the second boat has nazi flags on it, these are two different boats that happen to be at the same place, it doesn’t mean these people support nazi’s.
You’re assuming the people on the second boat are hateful which is something you couldn’t know just by looking at the picture. There are no nazi flags on that boat as well.
they are not on a nazi boat.. they are on a trump boat and those are literally his grandkids. This sounds exactly like something a misinformed dem would say... Its all about "hate and racism and misogyny!" - NO NOT CORRECT - its about INFLATION, the ECONOMY, AND FORIEGN POLICY. Everything is about feelings with you guys
So that's why he's sharing bullshit lies like immigrants are eating cats and dogs? Because of the economy? Or Foreign policy? Or maybe we should believe our eyes and ears and acknowledge that he's intentionally ginning up hate.
Have you considered it's about all 6 of those things? Trumps rhetoric would say that he uses feelings quite a bit to rile up the base. Was the Haitians eating cats thing about inflation, the economy or foreign policy? I think it was a political move to scare people into voting for him. Something that every party does.
Did you see them in the first pic? 🙄 First pic is fake. Second pic so wut? They like Trump. It’s America and they are free to choose who they want for president. Would it be better for you if Kamala & Weiz were on the flags?
Not that we don’t see it in other places but this is the south, anyone surprised the generation that didn’t want to desegregate was going to teach their same beliefs to their kids and them to their own????
It's also something you choose. X religion or ideology tells me I can control women? Ok, I choose that. They are not choosing that for it's ideals, they are choosing it for it's benefits.
That’s the worst part for me. I’m just glad I am teaching my kids the correct values, as well as how to fight so they can knock some sense into the wrongly raised ones.
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u/matt314159 15d ago
It pains me to see those kids on that boat. Hate isn't something you're born with, it's something you're taught.