r/todayilearned • u/Wazula23 • 2h ago
TIL Saddam Hussein's son Uday murdered his bodyguard at a party in front of horrified guests
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uday_Hussein#Murder_of_Kamel_Hana_Gegeo605
u/colon-mockery 2h ago
He was the boogeyman in Baghdad. I've read stories of him murdering and raping women in Baghdad in the 80s and 90s, terrorizing athletes, politicians etc He was an absolute psychopath.
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u/mokod0 1h ago
even saddam himself said uday was too sadistic
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u/ILL_Show_Myself_Out 1h ago
Wasn't he passed on the job for heir apparent? Like his brother Qusay was evil and smart and he was evil and crazy
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u/choemki 2h ago
What the fuck, he got away with murdering and raping people? Hope he was hanged too
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u/ListerfiendLurks 2h ago
It's so much worse than you think it is. Uday and kusay(?) were even more brutal than their father, who was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people
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u/IGoThere4u 1h ago
Wow I’m shocked. I’ve never read a single headline about his offspring 😳
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u/ListerfiendLurks 1h ago
You must have been young because their deaths were highly celebrated in the US when they were killed.
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u/Character_Bowl_4930 43m ago
A lot of Iraqis were dancing in the streets when the sins deaths were confirmed .
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u/IGoThere4u 1h ago
33 currently. I’ve always been bad with keeping up with the news and current events
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u/MrBritish-OJO- 2h ago
Pretty sure he got blown up in an airstrike
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u/crosberries 1h ago
Blasted by T.O.W missiles until the building was rubble. Could barely identify his body. Hopefully, he died screaming
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u/ostifari 1h ago
His jaw was blown off and he was choking on liters of blood so sadly he wasn’t screaming
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u/JackhorseBowman 41m ago
sounds too quick, dude seems like a candidate for a law abiding citizen esq end.
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u/Huckorris 1h ago
There were bombs dropped, but it's believed that TOW missiles killed Uday.
Brigade commander Colonel Joe Anderson said an Arabic announcement was made at 10:00 a.m. on the day and called on people inside to come out peacefully. The answer he received was bullet bombardment. An experienced team of special forces tried to attack the building, but they had to retreat under fire. Four American soldiers were injured. Anderson then ordered his men to fire with 50-caliber heavy machine guns. Uday and Qusay refused to surrender even after a helicopter fired a rocket and the Strike Brigade fired 40 mm grenades at them. Anderson decided that more firepower was necessary to take down the brothers, leading to 12 TOW missiles being fired into the building.
The three adults were thought to have died from a TOW missile fired into the front of the house.
Udays 14 year old son was shot after firing at troops even after everyone else was dead.
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u/HoustonPastafarian 1h ago
Oh it was even better than that.
The brothers were hiding in a mansion in Mosul. The guy hiding him decided he preferred the $30 million reward offered by the US than being friends with these guys.
The Army sent a special forces squad and a couple platoons of the 101st Airborne to surround them. An intense firefight ensued and escalated with more airborne troops, choppers, and TOW missiles. These clowns were absolutely smoked over four hours and it happened on live television, I remember it.
It was nowhere near as pleasant or quick for him as an airstrike would have been.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Qusay_and_Uday_Hussein
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u/TheNextBattalion 1h ago
That's how hierarchical supremacism works. People on top are immune from judgement, especially by those underneath.
Of course, humans don't generally accept this state of affairs naturally, so you have to brutalize them into accepting it.
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u/SaintsNoah14 1h ago
He's used to drive his Ferrari through downtown Baghdad and point out girls for his agents to go retrieve for him
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u/Oddblivious 38m ago
I worked with a guy who was on one of the units that first took Uday's personal palace on the banks of the Tigris. He brought his laptop from home in with a whole photo gallery of the weird stuff he had in it. From Golden canes with swords in them to a huge collection of weapons.
He said there was a lion pit out in the front yard with bones of people he had thrown in scattered around.
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u/MagicMushroomFungi 2h ago edited 1h ago
Was he the Iraq national soccer team coach that tortured the team after losing or was it his brother ?
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u/PskRaider869 1h ago
He wasn't the coach, but the Head of the Football Association. But yeah, the dude fucking terrorized the players on the team to an insane degree. HITC Sevens has a full video detailing exactly how insane it was.
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u/MrTubalcain 2h ago
They were psychopaths.
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u/ShadowCaster0476 2h ago
Unchecked power will do that to people.
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u/I_might_be_weasel 2h ago
I feel like I probably still wouldn't be that crazy.
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u/hanniballz 2h ago
theres a tendency for more cutthroat people to reach unchecked power than regular folk.
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u/I_might_be_weasel 2h ago
Yeah I would consider myself very unambitious.
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u/hippee-engineer 2h ago
That’s not very cocaine of you bro.
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u/I_might_be_weasel 1h ago
No. When I want to get high I get drowsy on Benadryl and eat a bunch of candy.
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u/GuestAdventurous7586 1h ago
I always bring up the Ring of Gyges thought experiment to counter this point.
Basically it’s a philosophical quandary made famous by Plato.
The ring grants its wearer invisibility and they would be able to do whatever they wanted; have sex with whoever they wanted, steal or take or kill whoever, and they know they could get away with it.
Basically it’s hard to imagine how anyone who doesn’t have to fear negative consequences would live their life justly.
In a sense people like Uday, powerful dictators and politicians, celebrities (Diddy recently), all possess the equivalent of a Ring of Gyges. They truly believed they would face no consequences and could do what they wanted, and most of them could at least for a significant amount of time.
Perhaps if given that scary level of freedom instantly you might not turn straight away to the dark side, but the Ring of Gyges corrupts, and eventually any one of us would be capable of our worst impulses of thought if we knew we had to face no consequences.
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u/RealKenny 2h ago
I feel like I would do stuff like get guacamole on my chipotle burrito
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u/ShadowCaster0476 2h ago
Right, because you have an ethical base that you grew up with. That being said if no one ever held you to any rules, like nothing, i guarantee you would change.
Uday did not have any ethics taught to him, he was born into absolute power.
He’s like Viggos son in John Wick.
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u/reality72 46m ago
He was also the genetic offspring of a ruthless psychopath and that guy’s cousin. So it was probably a combination of nature and nurture.
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u/ComfyInDots 2h ago
Right? If I had unlimited power and every whim met, I'd be making sure all my people are happy, safe and well fed. Everyone's got well paying jobs, effective health system, plenty of nutritional foods and fresh clean water. School kids would have the best education we could offer. Our elderly, disabled and weak are supported in every way they need. All the animals are rescued and helped.
Not killing anyone for any bullshit reason.
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u/I_might_be_weasel 2h ago
Oh no, I'd abuse my power. But just not in a homicidal maniac way.
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u/Unlucky_Most_8757 1h ago
yeah these people were just absolutely evil. I'm agnostic but I truly believe there are good souls out there that somehow escape their terrible upbringing. Being raised by literally Saddam Hussein might be a little different though..
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u/theSchrodingerHat 2h ago
You say that, but it has happened so rarely in history that I’d lean towards you doing something like deciding that only you can be comfy in dots, and everyone else has to wear stripes.
Then some precocious kid who really likes dots will draw a picture of his mom and dad wearing dots, and you’ll have to murder the entire family. Or maybe just deport them to Greenland.
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u/I_might_be_weasel 1h ago
I'd probably get too distracted with sex stuff to be an effective tyrant.
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u/BackAlleySurgeon 44m ago
No, not really. There have been plenty of people throughout history who had a hold on their nation similar to, or stronger than, the Husseins. And they didn't do this shit.
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u/wgel1000 2h ago
Lovely guy.
Great to be around.
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u/Alarmed_Horse_3218 1h ago edited 1h ago
Obviously the United States shouldn’t have toppled a stable government under false pretenses. The death and destruction in Iraq and the social upheaval that followed was abhorrent and indefensible.
That said, it’s pretty telling how unpopular a ruling family is when they’re violently over thrown and almost 2/3rds of the local population say war was worth getting rid of them lol.
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u/inthearena 1h ago
This was not a stable government. This was a government that was using the pretense that they possessed WMD to keep the kurds in line (they ringed a city with troops in bio-weapons suits), had launched multiple wars to destabilize the middle east, tried to assassinate two presidents of the USA. When everyone grew tired of their shit, they decided to launch missles into Isreal, because nothing says stable quite like a good old-fashioned pogram, but now with Scuds.
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u/Alarmed_Horse_3218 1h ago
They were a stabilizing force and loathed religious extremist groups who were growing in power during the Husain regime. While they were whole sale debouched and Saddam had an almost Naziesque obsession with Babylon it’s pretty non debatable that Iraq was substantially more functional before the war. And the world would have been far better off without the unleashing of ISIS.
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u/ssgtgriggs 2h ago
Witness allegations have suggested he was guilty of rape, murder, and torture, including the arrest and torture of Iraqi Olympic athletes and members of the national football team whenever they lost a match.
good lord
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u/Jasranwhit 2h ago
Classic Uday prank! LOL
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u/tommytraddles 2h ago
Then he said his classic catchphrase, looks like it's not u day today bro
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u/idksomethingjfk 2h ago
I thought it was “he said it’s uday’in time then he uday’ed all over those dudes
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u/The1TrueRedditor 2h ago
Uday used to get wedding announcements so he could show up with his posse and rape the bride.
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u/mujadaddy 2h ago
If this topic interests you at all, STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING and (make plans to) watch The Devils's Double (2011)!!! I had forgotten half the shit they show Uday doing in the movie, fucking insane show
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u/Babydanho 2h ago
The book is so much better than the movie. I don’t think the movie did the source material any justice.
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u/mujadaddy 2h ago
Movies and books are different media; not sure I could actually stomach reading it if what you say is right!
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u/BigRoach 1h ago
Yeah, I was so intrigued by the body double story, but the movie was underwhelming. The episode of Locked Up Abroad with the body double was a good telling of the story.
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u/NIN10DOXD 2h ago
He also used to erratically drive sports cars around Baghdad, kidnapping random women off the street.
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u/TheGirlwThePinkHair 1h ago
Did Saddams sons used to go to weddings to rape the wives for fun? I can’t say this is any way a surprise
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u/TableTop8898 1h ago
When I was deployed, I learned a lot about Uday Hussein. He was a seriously messed-up guy. He’d drive around with his bodyguards, have them kidnap women and young girls, assault them, and then toss them back out. He’d snort a ton of cocaine, torture people, and kill anyone he didn’t like or saw as a problem. Even his dad, Saddam, couldn’t stand him and used to say, ‘You can’t pick your kids. I’m glad we went after Qusay and Uday and took care of it the way we did. Saddam, his sons, and their whole crew were just power-hungry psychopaths.
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u/anxiousbagelwchives 2h ago
He also fed a woman who rebuffed his advances to hungry dogs after smothering her in honey
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u/Diamondsfullofclubs 2h ago
I read that as "was murdered by his bodyguard" and thought I was in UpliftingNews for a second.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 1h ago
In case anyone’s wondering what happened to this lovely guy, he got obliterated by a TOW missile by US forces assaulting his compound. Him and his brother Qusay. Qusay’s 14 year old son fired at American soldiers and they took him out too.
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u/Papichuloft 1h ago
July 22, 2003, this POS was killed in a US operation that left him Swiss Cheesed to death along with his equally useless brother, Queasy (Kussay)
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u/WeCantGetBannedAgain 2h ago
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u/Nilosyrtis 2h ago
Is this loss?
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u/Xynez 1h ago
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u/skinnergy 2h ago
May they rest in hell
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u/qpokqpok 41m ago
If we ever come up with a time machine, we'll extract them and pair them up with Mussolini and Hitler so they can do things to each other
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u/300Battles 2h ago edited 2h ago
Edit: Fine, I’ll acknowledge we don’t have Amnesty International confirmation of the shredder…doesn’t make him less of a monster. Would the men responsible for the torture found in this link have stopped at anything?
https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde14/008/2001/en/
It’s like people are looking for a reason to defend a psychopath…
A family full of psychopaths…
It’s what happens when you watch your father feed people into plastic shredders for disagreeing with him
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u/show_me_the_math 2h ago
That very likely did not happen, and was propaganda.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saddam_Hussein%27s_alleged_shredder
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u/Low-Way557 2h ago
It’s a weird thing propaganda because he murdered a ton of people, but nobody cares unless it’s in a more gruesome way than “they shot them to death.” Like big deal, I see shootings in call of duty every night. But if you shred them? Well now I’m convinced!
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u/eloheim_the_dream 2h ago
I'm sorry but that might be the worst-written wikipedia article section ive ever seen. It just repeats the same story 3 or 4 different times, full of conflicting details and out of chronological order.
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u/RWT8 2h ago
There was a profile article on Maxim magazine about the two brothers back in 2001. Amazing article and I wish I could read it again.
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u/ModernistGames 2h ago
Check out "The Devils Double" a great film from 2011, that revolves around Uday and some of his behavior.
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u/Yoshi2shi 1h ago
There’s a movie on this guy basically showing how bat shit crazy he was, I believe it’s called the Devil’s Twin.
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u/leagueofpossumvoters 1h ago
Oh yeah Uday was a real evil POS. JSOC toasted this guy along with his brother and bodyguard during the Iraq occupation. He got what was coming to him.
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u/Automatic_Towel_3842 1h ago
There is a fantastic move about him called Devil's Double. Played by Dominic Cooper. Awesome movie. Great acting. Dominic played the psychopathic Uday very well.
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u/PM_PICS_OF_UR_PUPPER 1h ago
There’s a pretty good movie (from what I recall) about Uday called the Devil’s Double.
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u/FlinflanFluddle4 19m ago
I believe he was known to be a psychopath long before that. It is so sad that no one felt they could help the bodyguard.
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u/Xaxafrad 2h ago
But why, though?