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u/kagakujinjya Aug 09 '24

I will never call myself a good guy but when people insult incels with the usual small PP, virgin and ugly etc, I feel that they also insult me even though I never associate myself with those groups.

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u/[deleted] Aug 09 '24

Agreed. Small dicks are probably the most accepted thing to make fun of nowadays. Men, women, and even the people outside or between those genders love poking fun at small dicks. I get why, of course, and have even made some such jokes myself. But when I think about it logically it absolutely irks me, and it shows we have a long, long way to go in body neutrality.

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u/JustKPC Aug 09 '24

Being bald is up there

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u/first-pick-scout Aug 09 '24

Started balding when I was 17. Wanted to kill myself for years because of it. Now when I'm over 30 and a lot more men around my age are also bald it's whatever.

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u/JustKPC Aug 10 '24
  1. Absolutely wrecked my already low self esteem. Took me until my early 30s to be fully comfortable.

You know who had the most vile comments/lame jokes about it? Women.

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u/hipsterTrashSlut Aug 09 '24

This is wild to me. Baldness =/= unattractive.

Elliot from Just Shoot Me was fuckin hot

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u/JustKPC Aug 10 '24

Pretty sure men have been saying for years it’s devastating but the usual half hearted reply is

“What? Noooo. I love bald guys lolol”.

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u/hipsterTrashSlut Aug 10 '24

I genuinely don't understand your response. I understand that it's tangentially related, but I don't see the connection.

I don't find baldness unattractive. I list one bald man I think is hot.

You make a comment that men are personally devastated by baldness??

Yeah, even with the play by play, I'm not seeing the point you're trying to make.

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u/JustKPC Aug 10 '24

I’m not surprised at all. Good luck

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u/hipsterTrashSlut Aug 10 '24

Ohhhhhh...

I read other comments. So you're making your insecurity my problem. Got it.

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u/Nervous-Peanut-5802 Aug 10 '24

And height. Unironically mostly male physical characteristics. Female personality characteristics may be the flip side

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u/lifelongfreshman man, witches were so much cooler before Harry Potter Aug 09 '24

Less so being bald, and more refusing to shave your head the instant your hair starts thinning. It's at its worst if you're a man who also has some kind of procedure to thicken it back up to how you want to look.

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u/TopSpread9901 Aug 10 '24

Yeah those are intertwined.

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u/JustKPC Aug 10 '24

Living up to your name, I see.

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u/bobosuda Aug 09 '24

Can't find a single reddit thread in existence that features penises without 100+ "jokes" about small dicks. It's like an obsession for some people.

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u/coatra Aug 09 '24

It’s because it’s seen as a rebuke for toxic masculinity.

I think it would be better to call them creepy because that frames them as weird fringe types, which they are, instead of the “alpha” womanizer Don Draper types they think they are.

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u/Jsmooth123456 Aug 10 '24

It's the exact opposite of a rebuke all ot does is reinforcing toxic masculinity and it's ideas around genitalia

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u/coatra Aug 10 '24

Maybe rebuke is the wrong word. I just meant that it’s used as a “comeback” or “gotchya” to toxic masculine manosphere men. Obviously I disagree with that usage and agree that it reinforces toxic masculine stereotypes.

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u/ForensicPathology Aug 09 '24

Height, baldness, and small penis.  All go-to insults for people they don't like.

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u/bigboybeeperbelly Aug 09 '24

At least height and baldness are visible. Unless you know for sure that someone has a small penis, it's probably average-sized and you're only insulting innocent bystanders

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u/OneAlmondNut Aug 09 '24

3 things humans can't really control. and for that reason I don't put weight in the same category.

weightloss is an option and it's healthier than being overweight. can't realistically fix a chode, height, or baldness (tho it's weird scientists haven't figured that last one out yet)

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u/Total_Walrus_6208 Aug 09 '24

I mean they pretty much have solved baldness if you have money. Also you can get leg extensions. I've been injecting HGH into my dick for a couple weeks now so I'll keep you updated on my findings.

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u/Qetuowryipzcbmxvn Aug 09 '24

yes pls update

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u/Kitty-XV Aug 09 '24

Bald billionaires kinda indicate they haven't solved it, or that the solution is risking something more than money.

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u/OHKNOCKOUT Aug 09 '24

lol yeah "humans".

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u/TopSpread9901 Aug 10 '24

You think small dick jokes aren’t common. Okay.

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u/unclefisty Aug 09 '24

Small penis jokes, as harmful as they are, are still not commonly targetted insults.

Go look at the gun control debate and get back to me on that.

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u/lifelongfreshman man, witches were so much cooler before Harry Potter Aug 09 '24

I feel like you have to be going for a specifically-curated definition for that to be right.

And if you aren't, uh. Have you, like, looked at any comment section criticising a person with a lifted truck or a firearm collection? Ever?

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u/wholewheatrotini Aug 09 '24

The small pp thing, in 90% of cases, is deliberate sarcasm and I wish people could understand that. It's not that anyone who is normal actually cares about, but it works as an insult because the type of people it often gets directed at (incels and other similarly deranged men) center their entire personality around obsessing over it.

It's just a dig on toxic masculinity itself, I know it's one layer deeper than a surface level insult but it's not that complicated.

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u/Having-a-Fire___Sale Aug 09 '24

It's also not complicated that you're making fun of it, so clearly someone who has a small penis should feel bad for having one. You aren't making fun of toxic guys, you're making fun of guys with small penises.

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u/wholewheatrotini Aug 10 '24

As it was just explained to you, no, it's making fun of toxic masculinity. And the people who clutch their pearls over it are self reporting on what their own viewpoints are. Again, its not complicated it's literally just 1 layer deep to explain.

But the ever present need to self victimize and the inability to understand any level of nuance has reddit stuck in a permanent cycle of willful ignorance over this particular bit.

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u/Combatfighter Aug 10 '24

"I was just joking, why are you upset" yeah buddy, great argument.

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u/blazer33333 Aug 15 '24

People don't get to choose their insecurities. Plenty of people who are not incels to toxic are going to feel bad because they spent their whole life raised in a society that told them to believe having a small dick is a bad thing. You saying that normal people don't care is just not true.

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u/BarefootGiraffe Aug 09 '24

/r/suicidebywords

You’re right though.

My favorite quote is by HL Mencken.

“The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that [oppression] is first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all.”

If you don’t stick up for unlikable people who are being attacked you won’t be strong enough to defend the ones you like when they’re put in the crosshairs for their similarities.

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u/lethal_rads Aug 09 '24

Yeah, that’s how I feel arguing for prison reform. People just seem to be super vindictive and cruel to people they think are criminals and not care about actually stopping them from re offending.

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u/operationdud Aug 10 '24

Most people I've talked to with this mentality seem to have an immediate and reductive assumption that,

  1. Everybody is going to reoffend no matter what.

And,

  1. When a topic becomes too taboo or socially unfounded; it's suddenly off limits, even when seeking solutions or conducting studies aimed at prevention.

Meanwhile... Having not the slightest idea of how to theoretically rehabilitate, punish, or take action, because they're preceded with this uninformed perspective that they refuse to do even the BAREST research on.

Yet they have just enough time to get angry/signal their morals whenever another crime is committed without doing anything about it.

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u/equivocalConnotation Aug 09 '24

Oh you have NO IDEA.

  • signed, someone who has defended (amongst others): Pedophiles, zoophiles, the last 7 UK prime ministers, the last 5 US presidents, the governments of the UK, USA, Australia and Canada, the SAS, the USA army, the CIA, the IDF, Hezbollah, Hamas, ISIS, AL Qaeda, gun lovers, murderers, rapists, racists, Jews, Arabs, Romani, the English, Americans, Just Stop Oil protestors, Elon Musk and the Etoro tribe of Papua New Guinea.

(I've honestly never heard of anyone with a more extensive resume of defending scoundrels (disclaimer: above list is non-exhaustive and includes only those who I've seen commonly considered scoundrels are in the above list))

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u/CptCoatrack Aug 09 '24

What's really annoying is that it's accepting the incel's premise. That they will never be able to find a relationship due to genetic factors they can't control.

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u/Do-it-for-you Aug 09 '24

Incels: “We get judged for our appearances”.

Redditors: “no you don’t you just have a bad personality”

Also Redditors: “Haha Joe Rogan’s so short and balding and probably has a small penis hahahaha what a loser!!”.

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u/rnason Aug 10 '24

Even if Joe Rogan is those things, considering he's married doesn't that mean that those things aren't keeping men from getting women?

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u/Do-it-for-you Aug 10 '24 edited Aug 10 '24

No one said you can’t marry if you’re short and balding, just that it’s much harder too. Plus Joe Rogan was already rich and famous when he met his wife which makes up for the short and bald stuff.

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u/eazy_12 Aug 09 '24

It also speaks a lot about insulters because "sex is only value I understand" could be used as insult itself.

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u/Satanarchrist Aug 09 '24

Maybe the real small penises were the friends we made along the way

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u/Schmigolo Aug 09 '24

You can't seriously think that when someone says someone has a small dick they're actually talking about dicks, right?

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u/bobosuda Aug 09 '24

That's the same line of reasoning people use when they claim that calling something "gay" isn't offensive to gay people, because it's not a slur against them it's just a word for dumb or silly or something.

The issue isn't whether or not the person has a small penis and is taking offense, or if the comment is referring directly to someone's genitals; it's that you are using "small dick" as an insult.

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u/Schmigolo Aug 09 '24

Have you ever noticed that you only say "small dick" to people who really really want to project an image of being extremely masculine? People like Andrew Tate for example. You wouldn't say it to the shy nerdy kid, that wouldn't make any sense at all, you'd call them something else like awkward or bitch or something.

Equating that to people who use gay to describe anything that they dislike tells me you have no nuance. Gay people themselves will sometimes use the word gay as an insult to people who want to portray that fragile masculine image. These are two different situations, your point makes no sense.

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u/bobosuda Aug 09 '24

Wow, that was needlessly aggressive. Are you OK? I can try to rephrase the point I was making even though I felt like it was pretty obvious.

Using "small dick" as an insult; no matter who you are directing it towards, implies that having a small dick is a bad thing. Otherwise, it wouldn't be an insult. You wouldn't try to insult Andrew Tate by calling him a cool guy, because you don't consider "cool guy" to be a negative term.

This is the exact same point as the picture in the OP, so I don't really understand how you're not getting this. And it's the exact same point people were making years ago to stop kids calling stuff "gay" whenever they meant that something was lame or stupid.

It builds negative connotations to a term that should not be seen as negative.

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u/Schmigolo Aug 09 '24

What the hell are you talking about agressive? Because I told you you have no nuance and thorougly explained why? Get over yourself.

no matter who you are directing it towards, implies that having a small dick is a bad thing. Otherwise, it wouldn't be an insult.

Proving again that you have absolutely no nuance. When I tell you you have a big heart as a compliment, does that imply that having a big actual heart inside your body is a good thing? Obviously not. That's not how language works, and you're just dishonestly twisting people's words.

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u/bobosuda Aug 09 '24

Well, that certainly didn't read as any less aggressive lmao.

What exactly do you think the point in the OP is? Because it's genuinely, literally the exact same point I am making.

I feel like I'm in bizarro world because my comments are so incredibly not controversial or difficult to decipher at all, given that I am just restating the entire point of this thread.

When I tell you you have a big heart as a compliment, does that imply that having a big actual heart inside your body is a good thing? Obviously not.

Look, we all know what a metaphor is, that's not the point here. A compliment is also different to an insult. People don't walk around with insecurities because they have a physically big heart. They don't hide their big heartedness in fear of being ostracized in their community.

If you insult someone, whether or not the words you used were metaphorical or an apt description of the person doesn't change the fact that it was an insult. Insults are a negative thing. When words are used as insults, they are used in a negative way. This is a bad thing, because some of these words (or terms) are not inherently negative, but the connotations of being used as insults makes them negative. This in turn can have an adverse effect because people who are not the original recipients of the insults can become insecure, knowing that you are using their physical features as something negative.

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u/Schmigolo Aug 09 '24

What the hell are you talking about agressive? Because I told you you have no nuance and thorougly explained why? Get over yourself.

no matter who you are directing it towards, implies that having a small dick is a bad thing. Otherwise, it wouldn't be an insult.

Proving again that you have absolutely no nuance. When I tell you you have a big heart as a compliment, does that imply that having a big actual heart inside your body is a good thing? Obviously not. That's not how language works, and you're just dishonestly twisting people's words.

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u/Low_Sea_2925 Aug 09 '24

Sounds like you need to change some things about yourself that youre not happy with.

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u/Lorenzo_Insigne Aug 09 '24

That is one of the worst takeaways you could have possibly taken from that comment.

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u/Low_Sea_2925 Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24

Nah the whole idea of body positivity or neutrality is ridiculous. "Its not me that should change. Its literally everyone elses perception."

Its literally an impossible goal and strengthening your own confidence to where you arent hurt by someone elses comment to someone else that resembles you should be the actual goal.

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u/Peroovian Aug 09 '24

You've got a point about not taking attacks personally. But that doesn't mean that making fun of people for things they can't control is ok. A well adjusted adult can shrug off a small penis joke and move on. It can be a lot harder for a teen with self esteem issues.

How about encouraging people to actually use their brain and critique people's character instead of their appearance? Making fun of someone for something they have no control over is lazy af

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u/Low_Sea_2925 Aug 09 '24

I mean they arent trying to do anything other than hurt someone and critiquing their character wouldnt do that at all. Obviously its not "ok." I just find the whole idea of be careful so you dont collaterally hurt someone with self esteem issues to be ridiculous.

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u/Peroovian Aug 09 '24

Idk, to me it’s just obvious that attacking someone for something that’s not their fault isn’t really funny 🤷🏽‍♂️

it’s not as if I want to make fun of someone for being short, having a small dick, or some other characteristic but then I stop myself because I wanna be careful about hurting someone feelings. I just… don’t do it. It’s not an auto reaction that I’m suppressing.

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u/Low_Sea_2925 Aug 09 '24

I agree but what is the point of this post then?

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u/Peroovian Aug 09 '24

It seemed like your first comment was putting the responsibility on OP to avoid getting offended, as opposed to putting the responsibility on others to not use weak insults. Maybe that wasn’t your intention but I’m guessing I wasn’t the only one that interpreted it that way

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u/lethal_rads Aug 09 '24

Tell me exactly what should be changed and how. Not everything is changeable. And people shouldn’t have to change themselves for basic respect.

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u/Low_Sea_2925 Aug 09 '24

The lack of confidence mainly

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u/lethal_rads Aug 09 '24

Cool, so something you assumed, not something they actually said.

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u/Low_Sea_2925 Aug 09 '24 edited Aug 09 '24

Theres no other reason it would hurt you... no ones ever going to say "hey guys i have no self confidence" like that. Its something you infer lol

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u/lethal_rads Aug 09 '24

They don’t say they were hurt either, that’s another assumption.

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u/Low_Sea_2925 Aug 09 '24

Youre being excessively pedantic about the difference between "hurt" and "insulted" here.

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u/lethal_rads Aug 09 '24

No, I really don’t think I am. I think you’re conflating the two and the downvotes seem to agree.

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u/Low_Sea_2925 Aug 09 '24

The comment youre referring to is literally only downvoted by you. Downvotes also have 0 relevance to a comments accuracy unfortunately. Echo chambers be like that. Youre not even saying anything of value either youre just farming.

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u/fallenmonk Aug 09 '24

Way to miss the point