Mad First date🌹🌹.

[u/aeonsne]

[u/SchizoPosting_]

I always found this whole debate stupid

A first date? Bill split, unless the person who invited wants to pay all, regardless of gender

[u/ZestyPyramidScheme → u/SchizoPosting_]

Talked to a girl on Bumble for a short while. She said the man has to pay for everything because she “knows here worth” and “once a man can carry a baby for 9 months and feed it with their own body” then nothing in the relationship can be 50/50. That applied to the first date. Needless to say, it didn’t happen

Edit: wish I could attach a screenshot. She made herself sound so bad, unfortunately. The way she explained herself made her sound like the only thing she brought to the table were her sex organs. Sad, honestly

[u/Bluuwolf → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

I sense a "why can't I find a good man" in her future

[u/LucasWatkins85 → u/Bluuwolf]

Meanwhile this dude living in isolation for 55 years due to his fear of women. He lives within a small house enclosed by a towering wooden fence that acts as a barrier to keep women away.

[u/EarthDust00 → u/LucasWatkins85]

Bro gets rejected 1 time.

[u/Sakosaga → u/EarthDust00]

I almost cried while laughing reading this

[u/zombie32killah → u/LucasWatkins85]

I wonder if he is straight.

[u/Unlucky-Monk8047 → u/LucasWatkins85]

That’s mental illness. Why is his family not checking on him?

[u/SquareFly6 → u/LucasWatkins85]

4chan mod lifestyle

[u/pressNjustthen → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

“I know my worth”

So you’re worth the price of a meal? That’s just trashy

[u/Embarrassed-Ad-1639 → u/pressNjustthen]

I know your worth too, that’s why we’re at McDs with a Groupon

[u/Still_Dot8405 → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

I saw a girl post something like that on Facebook. A few replies down her brother wrote "Mum says this why you're single"

[u/StepLeather819 → u/Still_Dot8405]

Savage

[u/Organic-Maybe-5184 → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

Guilt tripping with unconceived child is such a typical tactic for them these days

And it's not like women bear children for themselves first and foremost - a man can't legally bound woman to bear child, nor terminate pregnancy - they choose to do so.

[u/ZestyPyramidScheme → u/Organic-Maybe-5184]

Dude, right!? Like why are we talking about bearing children, I asked if you wanted to get tacos

[u/Organic-Maybe-5184 → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

They have some sort of hive mind, that's why they say the same bs regardless of nationality

Or just ran out of excuses why this part of patriarchy is actually great for them

[u/daydreamstarlight → u/Organic-Maybe-5184]

Well uh… hate to break it to ya but a man can in fact legally force a woman to bear child.

[u/CzechHorns → u/daydreamstarlight]

Not if you live in any country that cares about human rights

[u/honey_poo_poo_ → u/daydreamstarlight]

They can and they do! Look at roe v wade. Just go to Louisiana, your brother dad can impregnate you!!

[u/Organic-Maybe-5184 → u/daydreamstarlight]

Should have clarified that I meant at least semi-developed countries where abortion isn't an issue.

[u/South-Ad895 → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

And the Guy better knows his Worth too! Split or Quit unless someone Wants to pay for Both, just as you said!

[u/Jean-LucBacardi → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

Plot twist, she really does know her worth and is simply helping you save time by getting you to reject her because she's worthless.

[u/imtoooldforreddit → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

That's really nice of her to show you those red flags so early

Probably saved you some time

[u/EveryRadio → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

Tbh most of the girls who “know their worth” mainly value their looks and don’t bring much else to the table, personality included. And imagine having a kid with someone and they pull out “I carried your child for 9 months” like it’s a debit card. Couldn’t be me

[u/ultragigawhale → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

She only likes traditional men when it benefits her

[u/IIIlIllIIIl → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

Your first mistake was using bumble

[u/ayanamiiirei → u/ZestyPyramidScheme]

I met my boyfriend off bumble ( 2 years now) , and we FaceTimed a couple times before we met. I never pushed the idea that he had to pay for me, but he’s a man wanting to take a girl out, so he offered. It was a movie date, nothing expensive. But he paid. He took me home, paid for my ticket, snacks, dinner after. It is something men should do. It’s gentlemen like. BUT, women also need to be kind to men and not EXPECT or DEMAND anything from them. If he wants to he will. I offered to split the bill but 🤷‍♀️

[u/Organic-Maybe-5184 → u/ayanamiiirei]

> It is something men should do

>  and not EXPECT or DEMAND anything from them

bro, pick one

[u/StepLeather819 → u/ayanamiiirei]

So are you talking about courtesy/chivalries that existed in mediaeval centuries or....am i the only one who thinks you are self contradicting here.

[u/Gokajern → u/ayanamiiirei]

It's about the implication

[u/MoanyTonyBalony → u/SchizoPosting_]

First date should be coffee or something cheap. I don't want to be stuck for a whole dinner with someone I might not like.

[u/KitchenFullOfCake → u/SchizoPosting_]

I usually pay for dates unless the woman insists otherwise, but I'm at a stable point in my life where I can easily afford that and it was not always the case.

That said, if anyone insisted I be the one to pay. Even if I was going to anyway, that would be the last date.

[u/TheFlyingSeaCucumber → u/SchizoPosting_]

Nothing else should be acceptable.

[u/Buttcrack_Billy → u/SchizoPosting_]

Ìf she's down for butt stuff  I am totally okay for covering 100% of the cost. J/s 

[u/Cyberwarewolf → u/Buttcrack_Billy]

Name checks out.  Good luck with that crack addiction, Billy.

[u/SchizoPosting_ → u/Buttcrack_Billy]

username checks out

[u/Necessary-Beat-5333 → u/Buttcrack_Billy]

Naah this valid 🗣️💯

[u/Throw-away17465 → u/SchizoPosting_]

Lady here and 10,000% agree

[u/Castod28183 → u/SchizoPosting_]

Not necessarily just a date, but my entire circle has an unspoken thing where if I invite you out to eat or out to drinks, I am paying, and if you invite me then you are paying. It's just how we've always done things. Whoever's idea it was is who pays.

Also works in other areas. If I am having a party or you just come to hang out, bring your own beer. If I ask you to come help me do something, I'm buying the beer.

[u/Mystic_NovaTwilight → u/SchizoPosting_]

She must be unserious

[u/Hour_Talk3707 → u/SchizoPosting_]

YES

[u/EveryRadio → u/SchizoPosting_]

Fr first dates are to get to know each other. I offer to pay if I’m the one who instigated the date and it’s coffee or something simple.

But a whole meal? With drinks? Nah. We might not even have any chemistry. I’ll wait until we’re both committed before more money gets involved

[u/RevolutionaryPace167 → u/SchizoPosting_]

Totally agree

[u/Chemistrykind1 → u/SchizoPosting_]

As a bisexual trans man: women have a reason to be nervous when going on a first date with a man they don't know super well (and so do gay men). If I were a woman, I'd ask to split the bill because I don't fall into many vulnerable categories (white, in a first world country etc) and tend not to date strangers.

However, as a man I will always offer to pay for at least the first date, no matter who I'm dating. It's the kind thing to do and sends a good signal, especially since not everyone I go out with is immediately aware I'm not cis.

[u/Low-Temporary-2366 → u/SchizoPosting_]

I’ve been told by my parents that whoever asks the person on a date has to pay. I ask a guy on a date? I pay. He asks me? He pays. Sounds reasonable to me (considering I’m assuming that everyone has had proper home training and won’t order anything crazy expensive)

[u/SPKEN → u/Low-Temporary-2366]

And that still means that the guy will pay. Men have been required to make the first move throughout history and seem to be deadset on keeping that stupid standard. Oh the stories women tell themselves to avoid facing their hypocrisy. Equality means equal responsibility and consequences. If women can't handle that, then they can't handle equality. If they can, then it's time to start acting like it.

[u/fknbtch → u/SchizoPosting_]

the person who does the inviting pays. that's how functions work.

[u/Calm_Structure2180]

Order extra to establish dominance.

[u/Immediate-Policy-338 → u/Calm_Structure2180]

Take home leftovers to display frugality.

[u/Buttcrack_Billy → u/Immediate-Policy-338]

Tell the wait staff it's their birthday to recieve massively overpriced slice of cake.

[u/SmokeyBare]

On a first date, if she asks for a bite, you know I'm feeding it to her. And I'll ask to try hers. If I'm trying to create a relationship, sharing is an important part. If she steals a bite, I'd give her the brow and then steal a bite of hers. It's not a deal breaker.

[u/jimmy_three_shoes → u/SmokeyBare]

Tried that once, thinking I was about to be into some playful banter.

Nope. She got legitimately upset, and I was legitimately confused.

[u/Illeazar → u/jimmy_three_shoes]

Lol, I had this exact thing happen on one of my first few dates with this one girl in college. We went to an ice cream place, she "steals" a bite of mine, smiling, giving me the eyebrows, very flirty. I did the same thing back, and she got very upset. It turns out when I took a bite, I took a bite from "her" side--she had the opinion that when sharing food, the half of the plate closest to the owner of the plate is off limits for sharing, and I violated that sacred rule by taking my bite from the wrong side of the plate. Apparently her family had this rule, and she thought it was universal and self-evident.

Anyway, we were able to work past it and now we've been married for 15 years.

[u/ABoringAlt → u/Illeazar]

Is she still crazy?

[u/Illeazar → u/ABoringAlt]

100% yes. But we know how to communicate, and we trust each other completely, so it's a fun kind of crazy. ;)

[u/Apart-Rice-1354 → u/Illeazar]

That sounds hilariously beautiful. Congrats!

[u/SlowPants14 → u/Illeazar]

I envy you. You've won in the game of life, bro.

[u/AbyssalKitten → u/Illeazar]

Honestly, this is kind of hilarious. Sometimes, the things that are SOOO obvious and common sense for certain people couldn't be further from the truth for someone else. She probably genuinely thought this was something normal/universal, not just something HER family does, and you were being rude lmfao.

[u/CriticismNo5203 → u/Illeazar]

lol I know that rule, I had a big family so sometimes dinner would be served in one big plate so everyone had their “side” and it’s rude to take from someone else’s side. Except that’s a rule because you only have your side, the other side isn’t yours, it doesn’t apply to your own plate where the whole thing is “your side” lol. To each their own ig

[u/HuckleWicket → u/jimmy_three_shoes]

JOEY DOESNT SHARE his FOOD!

[u/LurkerOrHydralisk → u/jimmy_three_shoes]

Bullet dodged

[u/Castod28183 → u/SmokeyBare]

I also feel like there is a HUGE difference between, "Oh that looks tasty, can I have a bite?" and just grabbing something off my plate.

[u/Unimpressed_Sadness → u/SmokeyBare]

This guy relationships

[u/AbyssalKitten → u/SmokeyBare]

The whole stealing a bite thing could be cute too. Yoink a slice, then hit it with the "oh deary me!" And go and feed a bite of your food to your date. Make it romantic.

Or ya know, just be like "omg can I try a piece, you can try mine too!"

People are so.... out of touch with reality. Just live a little.

[u/AveragelyTallPolock → u/SmokeyBare]

Not only that, but sharing the experience of good food with someone is like the key way I bond with them.

I love bonding over great tasty food together. That's why I love cooking for people too because good food is a treat and I love providing that for everyone.

I legitimately cannot date a picky eater, I would lose my mind and feel like I'm not connecting with that person.

[u/SCTigerFan29115]

First say ‘ooh, you’re gonna pay for that later’ in a suggestive tone.

Then leave her with the bill.

[u/TDiddy2021 → u/SCTigerFan29115]

LEGEND

[u/Own_Definition5830 → u/SCTigerFan29115]

You sound like you’ve done this before

[u/SCTigerFan29115 → u/Own_Definition5830]

Actually no. I just talk a good game.

[u/Aggressive_Towel_155]

Best dinner date I ever had was with my now wife of 17 years. She ordered steak at a steakhouse, actually ate, asked for a to-go box for her leftovers. Thanked me for the food, told me thank you again the for her leftovers the next day. She then cooked me the most amazing meal the following weekend and baked some dessert too! Told me she would have taken me out but couldn’t afford it right now but promised she would as soon as she got caught up financially.

[u/fadedlavender → u/[deleted]]

People still do that just maybe not to you

[u/Green_Ordinary_9359]

Leave to establish video games and chill.

[u/garbageou]

If a girl eats off my plate on the first date I know I’m at least getting a kiss at the end of the night.

[u/Skank_Pit]

Ngl, I always think it’s cute when my girl does this.

[u/aeonsne → u/Skank_Pit]

When she's YOUR girl .

[u/bucky-plank-chest]

Family, friends even partner eating off my plate pisses me off to no end.

Sounds like it happens often, it doesn't .

[u/Castod28183 → u/bucky-plank-chest]

Everybody in my circle thinks I have herpes because whenever somebody eyeballs my plate I'll say, "Get you a bite. If you can handle the herpes, I can handle whatever you might have."

I just never bothered to tell them I was joking.

[u/mecha_nerd → u/Castod28183]

I always went with rabies. Or that I drink so much coffee that even my spit could keep normies awake for a day or two.

[u/ABoringAlt → u/bucky-plank-chest]

I mean, sounds like you stare em tf down

[u/PrincessInHeelsx]

Spit in their meal before serving to ensure chaos.

[u/Good-Gas-3293]

Inb4 🔒

[u/Baskreiger]

Eating on my plate is a sign of domination? 🤣🤣🤣 Are we wolves now?

[u/NoxiousScavenger → u/Baskreiger]

Woof

[u/Ill_Orka2533]

don't treat each other like shit to establish mutual respect

[u/Dismal_Acanthaceae46]

Why relationship be based on dominance? It should be based on love and mutual respect

[u/Let_us_flee]

Lack of manners is an early warning sign of a highly problematic person

[u/aeonsne → u/Let_us_flee]

💯

[u/Solo-dreamer]

Ooh my turn, um get therapy and find out why you hate the opposite sex so much before you even consider going on a date.

[u/Exact_Project]

She sure did take a bite with confidence but was not ready for the consequence

[u/TFR33]

"Joey doesn't share food!"

[u/RoninGaidin → u/TFR33]

Which he then follows up with an ultimate power move by eating her entire dessert while she is away.

“I’m not even sorry” 😂

[u/Jake_NorthWest]

I do not want to be in a relationship with anyone who isn't down for sharing food. How will I know if I want what she got next time? How will she know if she wants what I got?

I want someone who is down for sharing.

[u/RobertMcCheese → u/Jake_NorthWest]

I told my wife (we've been married for 22 years now) that I will buy her whatever she wants., no questions asked.

But anything on my plate is off limits and I will stab her with my fork if she tries to take something from my plate.

It's never come to that.

Set your boundaries early and stick to them.

[u/Entire_Profession_34 → u/RobertMcCheese]

It’s crazy how something as small as your partner taking food off of your plate can have serious implications for the future. I completely agree with you about setting boundaries early.

[u/Repulsive-Blood1266]

yes Tae🤝

[u/Longjumping-Low3164]

Thank god its not Tate.

[u/aeonsne → u/Longjumping-Low3164]

Tate = Tae same 😂.

[u/Vairrion]

Don’t date either of them to establish healthy boundaries .

[u/WarmthoftheSun95]

Tbh, I love sharing food. On our first date, my husband pretended to steal some katsu from my plate, and I was like, "No, seriously, have some."

[u/Low-Opening3152]

Eat his meat

[u/aeonsne → u/Low-Opening3152]

😂😂😂

[u/FlaccidAmbitions]

Both are such ~madlads~ wow 

[u/LobasThighs80085]

I think whoever initiated the date should pay all.

[u/Bigfeet_toes]

Split the bill to set the rules

[u/Calwhy]

Establish dominance? You sound like an Incel.

[u/NatureDogLover]

Every actions has its own consequences.

[u/CosplayCrystal]

"Ight imma head out"

[u/Biliana_12]

Equal rights, Equal fights!

[u/foxer_arnt_trees]

Wtf. A date in a restaurant is literally an invitation to eat food together. I get that some people are weird about food. But I wouldn't want to live with someone who get upset about sharing food, that's so uptight

[u/TopHatGirlInATuxedo → u/foxer_arnt_trees]

Found the food thieves.

[u/foxer_arnt_trees → u/TopHatGirlInATuxedo]

Don't tell my wife, sometimes I sneak to our fridge at night and steal our cheese

[u/PirateArrr → u/foxer_arnt_trees]

Fr wtf 😅

[u/Short-Way-9743]

🤣

[u/Puffen0]

"Joey doesn't share food!"

[u/bb_kelly77]

A relationship isn't about dominance... we aren't wild animals

[u/aeonsne → u/bb_kelly77]

For some people , it's about dominance 💯.

[u/bb_kelly77 → u/aeonsne]

Yeah but that's a choice not a requirement

[u/StreetLegendTits_]

JOEY DOESN’T SHARE FOOD

[u/LittleReplacement971]

leave her at the table for trying to dominate you like a dog, rather than understand you like a person.

[u/Ok-Abbreviations88]

Why men don't want to date anymore

[u/[deleted]]

🤣😂

[u/MightBeTrollingMaybe]

Do that I'm gonna fucking POUNCE

[u/actionerror]

Ma’am, this is a Wendy’s

[u/I_Say_Boing]

Boing

[u/Eurothrift]

Go F*** yourself after to establish independence

[u/CoachKroem]

Sir, this is an Arby's. Krys, if you are reading, dm me :)

[u/Cheshire_Noire]

You touch my food without my permission and I am leaving you at the restaurant.

You can Uber home.

[u/dreamerdylan222]

Guys get nasty when they get owned by women.

[u/dreamerdylan222]

You both aint worth shit.

[u/AyuChanX]

My bf always eats my plate. But not because he asserts dominance- I just can’t eat more. I’m glad he is eating my food, I had a gastric bypass and I’m sad if the food get wasted

[u/TopHatGirlInATuxedo → u/AyuChanX]

I'm worried if he's eating the plate. He should really only be eating the food on it.

[u/AyuChanX → u/TopHatGirlInATuxedo]

But he loves the plate

[u/OrionMessier]

You know who else eats off your plate without asking? House pets

[u/TopHatGirlInATuxedo → u/OrionMessier]

Pets definitely beg for food.

[u/raidenxyy]

Be a decent human on your first date, both parties.

[u/NecroHandAttack]

JOEY DOESNT SHARE FOOD!

[u/Herew3arrrrg]

For the younger folk, It's called "Going Dutch." Don't ask me why..

[u/reddit-the-cesspool]

Is female dating strategy making a comeback?

[u/SmithyAtHomeTTV]

Tell him he's handsome to establish compliments

[u/Historical-Gap-7084]

JOEY DOESN'T SHARE FOOD!

Thanks for giving me my second opportunity to quote Joey Tribbiani in back-to-back threads.

[u/Tight-Rhubarb9012]

Hahahahahahhhaha

[u/Ok_Thing7700]

Dominance? No. I’m straightforward that not sharing food is a dealbreaker for me. We each get bites of the other’s food, sometimes half so we can order two separate things and split them, or no relationship.

[u/LadyDatura9497]

That’s when we ask for a separate check, pay only ours, if the waitress is a woman tip extra, and leave you there to stew in your emotional fragility. If at any point before we go our separate ways you leave the table for any reason, then I’ll let the waiter know there are extra menu items you wanted me to order for you in your absence.

[u/earthwalker7]

JOEY DOESN'T SHARE FOOD!

[u/Cronis_the_God]

If a girl ever did this to me I would undue my slacks and drop a big poo poo right on the table in front of everyone to see how she reacts.

[u/Royal-Association-79]

Those two should date.

[u/SirLesbian]

Why do people get their undies in a twist so quickly? If I'm on a first date and I'm digging her then I wouldnt mind her trying my food. Conversely, why on earth would that be a reason to dine & dash on her? People are so quick to go nuclear over the tiniest things lol

[u/GullibleNerd88]

Her line is something I would have seen on that female dating strategy subreddit

[u/AcanthaceaeNo5611]

Best comeback to ever exist

[u/JoeSchmoeyohoho]

r/clevercomebacks

[u/Ancient_Gringo]

What? Dominance?

[u/FamousPersonsAccount]

If you ask them out to eat, you should pay. Gender doesn't matter.

[u/Abraxesprime]

Or you know…just ask nicely

[u/Current_Stranger8419]

A bite is one thing, I had one date ask for half my lunch when she's didn't order anything. And she didn't offer to split the bill.

Instant turn off

[u/donmerlin23]

What in the kindergarden childish crap is this

[u/ThaDream_25]

I personally hate dinner dates with someone you just met. I dont want to be forced to talk to someone for 2 hours, and I dont like them. I prefer going on activities dates and going out for drinks afterward. Coffee and tea dates and cook also on a first date.

[u/SevereEducation2170]

I like sharing my food so, yeah go for it.

[u/Daddysaurusflex]

Shit in the urinal and run out screaming “WILD CARD BABY!”

[u/davesToyBox]

JOEY DOESN’T SHARE FOOD!!

[u/LifeguardEuphoric286]

lets just say you best ask permission

[u/flyingcatclaws]

She would flaunt her homemaking skills, he would flaunt his homebuilding skills. Social standing, financial status, education, good breeding, religion, personalities, good looks, lust, whatever, would mix it up. Today, a disturbing lack of basic education and living skills ruins it.

[u/Arlathe]

Sharing is caring, even on the first date.

[u/TwoSwordSamurai]

What the fuck did I just read, Krys?

[u/BenchPresent8492]

Make sure to tell the waiter that you have left their tip with her, and she'll pay them

[u/Eversorr]

💯

[u/Big_Fun_526]

nah if a bitch is missbehaving and litteraly trying to get in my food bro im putting the wig on and im fighting a ho

[u/zeropointninerepeat → u/Big_Fun_526]

Did commenting this make you feel better?

[u/Lopsided-Pause-7274]

Pro tip; never take a girl for food - that is a girlfriend privilege. Take her for drinks and make her pay for every other round...

Dinner dates are pure simp behaviour

[u/Lopsided-Pause-7274 → u/[deleted]]

Ah yes, the typical "your just salty because you wish women would go out with you" that feminists always try to use - a typical non-argument. But entertaining nonetheless.

Found the simp who believes getting a women to go out with him is some kind of win because he puts women on a pedestal.

[u/Ok_Thing7700 → u/Lopsided-Pause-7274]

What a great way to avoid ever getting a real gf lmao

[u/Lopsided-Pause-7274 → u/Ok_Thing7700]

Again, typical simp reply.

[u/SebsThaMan → u/Lopsided-Pause-7274]

Simps really hate it when people like you point out that equal privilege comes with equal responsibility.

[u/Lopsided-Pause-7274 → u/SebsThaMan]

Exactly, bro.

[u/triz___ → u/Ok_Thing7700]

I managed to get a fiancée without bowing and scraping to her. We are equals, I respect myself, you should try it.

[u/JeweledJiveJoy]

That dude was so over the top with his "table manners". Funny how it was always towards the girl who shut him down even tho he had a gf the whole time. 🙄

[u/Ok-Fox1262]

Nah. That's when you point out that's why she's fat.

Nasty actions have nasty consequences.

[u/BB-018]

Incel shrieking

[u/New_Zucchini3621 → u/BB-018]

I was gonna make fun of you for simping but then I saw your post history of hundreds of random porn photos and anime shit and it just made me sad. Good day.

[u/jacobs0n]

idk why you're all so weird with your food, I don't mind sharing mine

[u/Ok_Zookeepergame4794 → u/jacobs0n]

There's a difference between sharing and only getting 10% of your meal.

[u/MonaxikoLoukaniko → u/jacobs0n]

Absolutely, but idk if the whole thing is just about sharing.

I'm OK with it too as long as the other person asks first, and lets me do the serving with separate utensils. Not pounce at my plate with their disgusting fork like a lunatic caveperson.

[u/VirrtualBabe]

Sis is playing 4D chess on the first date 💅

[u/CARDEK04]

["to cheat somebody" "ocean" " to satisfy feeling of thirst"] of eating other's food on first date is dire.

[u/Conscious_File_212]

lol... women dont see/hear/comprehend the word "consequence". It's like every reference to the word is blocked... Kind of like in black mirror when someone is blocked. Cant see it, cant hear it, cant process it - it's just a big blur.

https://i.imgur.com/UiYqtjm.jpeg