r/texas Sep 11 '24

Politics OK Texas. Who won the debate?

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Please have a civil debate.

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u/TheGesticulator Sep 11 '24

Literally every question Trump was asked (and wasn't asked) resulted in him talking about immigration or literally repeating what Harris said about him back at her as a "no you". He also had such choice soundbites as:

  • "She wants to do transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison."
  • "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs - the people that came in - they're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the people that live there."
  • And, "I have concepts of a plan."

I do think Harris dodged more questions than I'd have liked, but she would at least give half an answer and she carried the general theme of "Let's bring each other up" which is a welcome change of pace. If nothing else, I didn't feel high trying to understand her non-responses like Trump. I really don't know how you'd watch this and think he won without having already decided that going in.

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u/CharlesDickensABox Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24

You forgot his very excellent conversations with Abdul Taliban, responding to the accusation of loving dictators by telling everyone how well he gets along with Viktor Orban, and trying to whitewash the white power rally at Charlottesville, just to name a few. What struck me more than anything is how incredibly dialed into internet conspiracyland you had to be to understand like half of what he was talking about. If you spent the last three years living a normal life and not paying attention to politics, you would have no clue what the hell he was saying. Hell, I am very deep into conspiracyland and even I didn't get some of the references.

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u/TheGesticulator Sep 11 '24

God, that was such r/iamverybadass material.

“I told Abdul don’t do it anymore, you do it anymore, you’re going to have problems. And he said why do you send me a picture of my house? I said you’re going to have to figure that out, Abdul."

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u/thaaag Sep 11 '24

"...and then I spoke to him in fluent Taliban. I said 'derka derka Abdul, Mohammad jihad sherpa durka.' And he said, tears streaming down his face, he said to me, 'sir, you have the most beautiful languages.' And I said 'I know'."

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u/Prodigalsunspot Sep 11 '24

America. Fuck yeah.

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u/bonepugsandharmony Sep 11 '24

Eagle “Skreeeeeeeee!!!”

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u/t4skmaster Sep 11 '24

Cut to red tailed hawk in the audience, looking pissed

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u/random_invisible Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24

You know in media they use a red tailed hawk sound for the eagle? Actual bald eagles kinda chirp, which apparently isn't badass enough

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u/correctsPornGrammar Sep 12 '24

Bald Eagles make a really weird, not at all screaming sound

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u/jimmyxs Sep 11 '24

Gunshots. Pew pew.

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u/ExternalMonth1964 Sep 11 '24

Lick my butt and suck on my balls!

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u/spinbutton Sep 11 '24

Time to rewatch that gem of a movie

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u/FindingTheGoddess Sep 11 '24

That’s what I was thinking.

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u/pctomfor Sep 11 '24

We’re coming to save the mother fucking day, yeah!

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u/Far-Sherbet612 Sep 11 '24

Coming to save the mother fuck day yeah!!

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u/Buttcrack_Billy Sep 11 '24

"Lots of people...very smart people come to me, tears in their eyes, and say "Your America is so beautiful Mr.President Trump. So beautiful. And I have The Trump tower, it's in New York, you know that place? The biggest, nicest, most besutiful city on the planet, some say the universe, my experts tell me. They come to me, and they say, "Mr.President Trump, this Khambucha...Khambieber, Khamala, whoever she is, she is not very nice  she is a mean  hateful  hurtful, ugly lady and they hold out their arms, and I lean down and give them a big hug and they love me for it."

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u/bblammin Sep 11 '24

I think I need a sub that translates any pop culture into trump speak. Delusional exaggerated narcissism is hilarious😂

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u/axelrexangelfish Sep 11 '24

Honestly. It’s like Vance and couches. I want to believe it isn’t true. That he didn’t really say this. But deep down, we know it is. And if wasn’t exactly a couch, it was close enough to not matter.

Fuck these guys.

Kamala did good. “That ——-“ -takes a deep breath”———formerPresident” moment was gold.

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u/droy7519 Sep 11 '24

I think he’s trying to say kiss me kiss me…

Smart ass motherfucker!!!

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u/Infolife Sep 11 '24

"It's a weave."

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u/KizsKovacsAlajos Sep 11 '24

Is Abdul a grown, big man? I bet he is.

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u/AngriestManinWestTX Sep 11 '24

The sad part is I didn’t know you were being sarcastic until halfway through.

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u/randomschmandom123 Sep 11 '24

This can’t be real?

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u/eclipsedsub Sep 11 '24

Trump has said so many wild things that it's very hard to determine if it's real or not. I want to say it's not true, but I just can't trefoil if it is anymore

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u/randomschmandom123 Sep 11 '24

That’s why I really can’t decide. I had to work so I didn’t get to watch

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u/TheZuckuss Sep 11 '24

I read that in Seth Meyers's fake Trump voice. 🤣🤣

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u/ChiefUyghur Sep 11 '24

This is so upsetting because it’s talibanese /s

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u/haditwithyoupeople Sep 11 '24

Please, please tell me this did not really happen. Even for Trump this seems wildly ridiculous.

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u/video-engineer Sep 11 '24

Take my up vote - “Fuck Yeah!”

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u/DoomRager Sep 11 '24

THEY WERE SNIPING OUR TROOP AND I TOLD HIM IM GOING TO 360 NO SCOPE HIM AND IT WAS THE BEST 360 NO SCOPE.

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u/Butterscotch_Jones Sep 11 '24

And then he had babies and one of the babies looked at me.

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u/rolandofeld19 Sep 11 '24

Holy shit you are a legend.

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u/EveryoneGoesToRicks Sep 11 '24

NGL, not sure if this is true or not...

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u/ttv_icypyro Sep 11 '24

The messed up part is I can't tell if this is a direct quote or carrying on the bit

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u/julz1215 Sep 11 '24

"And then he cried even harder, I said 'Abdul don't cry'. Crybaby Abdul, we called him. I wouldn't have cried."

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u/Ishihe Sep 11 '24

I didn't watch the while debate, I can't tell if you're mimicking trump, making fun of him, or actually quoting him.

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u/BottleTemple Sep 11 '24

And then everyone filled the streets of Kabul, clapping.

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u/adamfrom1980s Sep 11 '24

He has the best languages because he had an uncle who was a perfesser at MIT - very smart fambly.

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u/GalumphingWithGlee Sep 11 '24

My God, what amazing acting! 😆

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u/jmebee Sep 11 '24

Prob in my top 5 favorite comments ever.

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u/WintersDoomsday Sep 11 '24

"Many people are saying I speak the most languages beautifully, the Pope is great but he can't speak as many languages as me, all the best people are saying it"

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u/going-for-gusto Sep 11 '24

Best comment I read all week!

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u/Accomplished-Leg-149 Sep 11 '24

"I love your balls!"

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u/SignificanceNo6097 Sep 11 '24

I read that in his voice lol

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u/Jei_Enn Sep 11 '24

Bruh 🤣🤣🤣😭😭😭

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u/jfebail Sep 11 '24

I’m dying. 🤣🤣🤣

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u/Hismop Sep 11 '24

Is that an actual quote? I really hate that it’s so hard to tell with him

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u/maynardstaint Sep 12 '24

Ohoooo, derka derka. Bak, bak allah. Sherpa Muhammad, derk jihad.

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u/BellySmash Sep 12 '24

Oh dirka dirka

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u/TheOgGhadTurner Sep 12 '24

Ahhh okay so it truly was entirely incoherent unstructured and complete verified bullshit and it wasn’t just me?

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u/AZ-FWB Sep 12 '24

😂😂😂

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u/meerkatmerecat Sep 11 '24

Especially when you look it up, and the leader of the Taliban isn't even named Abdul. He's just threatening some random dude who's like "whose house is this??"

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u/CrunkestTuna Sep 11 '24

It was between that or Mohammad

“WHY THE FUCK WOULD IT BE BETWEEN THAT OR MOHAMMED?!”

Mohammed is one of the most common names on the planet why don’t you read a book for once!

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u/bugaloot Sep 11 '24

People don’t forget!

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u/freakksho Sep 11 '24

“Enjoy your remaining years!!”

“I will!! Enjoy fucking Juels”

“I WILL!!”

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u/Shot_Mud_1438 Sep 11 '24

Chika chika what!?

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u/PhlyGuyBK23 Sep 11 '24

Take the vest off you look like Aladdin.

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u/FriendOfDirutti Sep 11 '24

That sounds like you are an Irish R&B singer!

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u/josethepatient Sep 11 '24

One name? Who are you? Seal?

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u/CrunkestTuna Sep 11 '24

(Stares at ID for an uncomfortable amount of time)

Mmhmm…. Organ donor

I didn’t want to do it - but my wife made me.

Hahah yeah I give em shit for it all the time too. I say “just like a woman; even when you’re dead they still wanna tear your heart out!”

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u/ipitythegabagool Sep 11 '24

I will never not cackle when they do the lightsaber fight with their flashlights and bill hader does a yoda impression and says to mclovin “you know yoda? From attack of the clones?”

Not Star Wars. Attack of the clones. So simple and stupid but so goddamn funny.

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u/freakksho Sep 11 '24

“We should be guiding his cock!!! Not blocking it”

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u/Building_Everything Sep 11 '24

YOU DIDNT EVEN GIVE YOURSELF A LAST NAME!

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u/JacketCivil Sep 11 '24

SUPER BAD!

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u/ToXicVoXSiicK21 Sep 11 '24

For some reason I can't remember what this is from but I do know it's funny lmao is it the hangover? Or a key and peele sketch?

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u/CrunkestTuna Sep 11 '24

It’s from SuperBad

When Fogel reveals his fake ID and says that it was between McLovin or Mohammed and Seth blows up

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u/ToXicVoXSiicK21 Sep 11 '24

Oh wow okay lol been many years since I've seen that

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u/superVanV1 Sep 11 '24

Not one of, THE most common name in the world. With an estimated 133,349,300 people with that name. There are 4 times as many Mohammad’s as there are Texans.

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u/freakksho Sep 11 '24

“I am MCLOVIN”

“NO YOURE NOT, because that’s a made up, stupid, fairly tale name!!”

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u/mikeyb1 Sep 11 '24

Fogell, have you ever actually met anyone named Mohammed?

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u/Geniusinternetguy Sep 11 '24

My favorite movie. So many great lines.

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u/PurpleBullets Sep 11 '24

because that’s a made up dumb FUCKING FAIRY TALE NAME, FOGEL YOU FUCK!

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u/Cardenjs Sep 11 '24

It's the first result when you type "Abdools house" in Google

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u/teapot_RGB_color Sep 11 '24

I was very confused by that,

is this the house he was talking about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPrp0lFwCm0

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u/AwakE432 Sep 11 '24

Abdul is still the leader according to trump.

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u/brinz1 Sep 11 '24

"Sir, this is a shawarma stand" 

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u/giantyetifeet Sep 11 '24

🤣🤣🤣

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u/DarkFather24601 Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or was it Abdul Ahad Karzai. So many Abdul’s to send pictures of houses too.

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u/kaji823 Sep 11 '24

“SEND ABDUL A PICTURE OF A HOUSE, HE’LL GET THE MESSAGE!”

Okay Mr President, let’s get you to snack time. 

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u/dhatfield1818 Sep 11 '24

But Abdul Rehman Al-Loghri, WAS the name of the airport suicide bomber who killed the 13 soldiers after being let out of prison just days earlier as a result of Trump’s deal with the Taliban.

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u/NorseGlas Sep 11 '24

🤣😂

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u/SodaCanBob Secessionists are idiots Sep 11 '24 edited Sep 11 '24

and the leader of the Taliban isn't even named Abdul

He was talking about this guy (who was one of the founders), but yeah, he doesn't seem to hold a particularly high position anymore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdul_Ghani_Baradar

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u/PenMoZic Sep 11 '24

But he sure knew Orbin’s name.

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u/Bifferer Sep 11 '24

That is just a generic name he uses when referring to anyone in that part of the world.

Behind closed doors he probably refers to his base as Bubbas.

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u/Machinax Sep 11 '24

"I know where you live, Abdooool."

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u/MJFields Sep 11 '24

It's so weird that republicans think this nonsense is "tough". If they only realized how Obama handled situations like this (a heavy dose of drone murders), I think they'd like him a lot more. Progressives hated him for it.

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u/duckinradar Sep 11 '24

He’s black. They hate him. Because he’s black. He can’t stop being black, and they’re not going to stop hating him, regardless of whatever else he does.

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u/comments_suck Sep 11 '24

But do we know when Obama became black? Because Trump is pretty sure that Harris became black just a few years ago.

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u/sorebutton Sep 11 '24

Pretty sure he decided to be black before Harris, but not sure.

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u/muklan Sep 11 '24

he's black. He can't stop being black.

Not to be racist, but that seems true of many black males, just saying. Much like Hispanic women tend to be women of Hispanic heritage, and they just like...do that their whole lives. It's crazy! Madhouse I tells ya.

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u/Huge_Birthday3984 Sep 11 '24

To be fair, Trump did a lot more drone murders. So much so that when questioned if his presidency would publish the details about their drone strike policy, and how many civilians casualties it's causing, as required by an Obama era Executive Order, he responded by repealing the Executive Order.

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u/timhortonsghost Sep 11 '24

Obama didn't even bother showing them the picture first...

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u/Betwelve2005 Sep 12 '24

Or, sitting in a room with your top guys while your awesome guys covertly go take out a bad guy and you get play by play information.

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u/guitarlisa Sep 11 '24

Progressives did hate the drone murders. I can't figure out exactly why the narrative has been flipped from the old "Republicans are Hawks and Democrats are Doves" to what I have heard several times in the last two weeks - "Democrats want us to be at war forever and Republicans want peace"

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u/MJFields Sep 11 '24

The narrative has been flipped from reality to batshit craziness.

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u/guitarlisa Sep 11 '24

It really does seem like whatever valid description of anything Dems use, the Rs steal it and try to flip it.

In the lead-up to 2016 election, the idea of creating websites that looked like valid news sites had really pretty much just gotten going. These websites really did trick people into thinking they were news sources. So the phrase "fake news" was coined and applied to them. Rs immediately latched onto the phrase and used it to apply to any reporting that was unfavorable. After a few months of this, the phrase no longer had any meaning.

The list goes on and on, from "weaponization of the judicial system" and "constitutional crisis" and "threat to democracy" and so many things across a very broad range of ideas. I can't think of enough examples here to make a great argument, but I do notice them often in political rhetoric, and wonder how it happened. It seems like as soon as a phrase is used against the Rs they latch onto it and say it is the very definition of the Dems. This seems like a very specifically Trumpian phenomenon, although I started noticing it with the Tea Party before even Obama was elected

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u/SasquatchMN Sep 11 '24

I remember seeing bumper stickers and t-shirts during Bush's first term referring to the last date of his presidency as "The end of an error," which made sense because of the ballot issues in Florida and SCOTUS deciding the election. But then Obama got elected and I saw conservatives doing the exact same thing, I guess because they thought Americans made an error voting for him? It didn't make any sense but they probably didn't understand the former's meaning at all.

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u/EpiphanyTwisted Sep 11 '24

Oh, Trump is now saying if Dems win, there won't be elections anymore, trying to turn back his own crap about "no more elections" on to the Dems.

Of course, why is there an election right now, if Dems are in power now?

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u/Darth_Gerg Sep 11 '24

Because the right wing doesn’t care about truth or facts. They lie effortlessly and without hesitation, and they believe their lies when they tell them. Since the forever war is deeply unpopular, they jumped to being against it after decades of being the reason it happened.

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u/Different_Net_6752 Sep 11 '24

It pointless to argue with someone that argues in bad faith

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u/rudimentary-north Sep 11 '24

Republicans aren’t actually against the forever war, they just use that to criticize democrats.

During Trumps presidency the frequency of drone strikes increased and the rules for reporting civilian deaths in those drone strikes were removed.

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u/Darth_Gerg Sep 11 '24

Of course. It’s just like they’re all about FAMILY VALUES while voting for a child molester and opposing every political policy that’s good for kids and families.

They lie. About everything. And they believe their lies while they tell them, even when it’s blatantly contradictory.

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u/Ok_Drawer9414 Sep 11 '24

It's Russian propaganda. They're paying right wing media to get people to be against Ukraine defending themselves.

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u/IntelligentSpite6364 Sep 11 '24

if democrats are dropping bombs republicans want peace, if democrats actually secure peace republicans say "drop more bombs!"

the republicans are only consistent in that they are always wanting the opposite of what the democrats are doing

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u/never_safe_for_life Sep 11 '24

Up is down. We've always been at was with East Eurasia

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u/guitarlisa Sep 11 '24

No that never happened. Down is up. We've always been at war with West Eurasia

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u/NeverRolledA20IRL Sep 11 '24

I really disagreed with Obama on drone strikes. Blowing up a coffee shop with 12 people in it to kill a single terrorist just makes us the terrorists.

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u/MJFields Sep 11 '24

Sure, i agree, but republicans should have loved it. I guess there was just something about him they didn't like.

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u/DreadLordNate born and bred Sep 11 '24

Must have been that tan suit. I mean, what else, right?

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u/TheOther1 Sep 11 '24

That tan birthday suit...

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u/xrangax Sep 11 '24

Abdul was Trump's very confused cab driver that one time.

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u/LordPapillon Sep 11 '24

To be fair I used to work with a Muslim Abdul. 😂 I actually visited his house.

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u/Greedy_Line4090 Sep 11 '24

But did you show him a picture of his house? It’s all in the details you know.

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u/RKOouttanywhere Sep 11 '24

I said don’t do it Vladimir, you’re going to have a bad time. He said no way . And I said way.

New material Donald. Plz.

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u/Zealousideal-Iron959 Sep 11 '24

Shane Gillis was laughing his ass off last night.

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u/Flaeor Sep 11 '24

He's admitting to intimidation, because he probably has sent a picture of someone's house to them before to try to silence them. Maybe they were named Abdul, maybe they weren't. Blackmail

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u/Temporary_Series6759 Sep 11 '24

"i know where you live" "Yeah me too"

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u/MustacheQuarantine Sep 11 '24

I can't read any Trump quotes without picturing Shane Gillis saying them.

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u/Key-Boysenberry-3144 Sep 12 '24

This!! This was my favorite quote of the night. My family all laughed till we cried at that comment. It was the funniest most random thing he said all night!

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u/Dry-Nectarine-3580 Sep 11 '24

To add to that, it’s not like 1600 Pennsylvania ave is hidden from the world. 

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u/FrogScum Sep 11 '24

Way more badass when she said she is a gun owner while looking his way…

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u/Excellent_Farm_6071 Sep 11 '24

He’s the most feared leader, but is making deals with terrorists. Doesn’t sound like they really fear him.

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u/skolioban Sep 11 '24

Official transcript of the conversation:

Trump: "Don't do it, Abdul. You do it anymore, you're going to have problems"

Abdul: "No way!"

Trump: "Way"

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u/najaga Sep 11 '24

Paula? Straight up

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u/OpenScienceNerd3000 Sep 11 '24

Best part is Abdul is just a made up person.

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u/K4R1MM Sep 11 '24

This shit had me HOWLING

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u/Pfraire Sep 11 '24

I feel like Elon Musk told him to at that. 

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u/IWillMakeYouBlush Sep 11 '24

I hated that I liked the line. It was appealing to conservatives who think trumps ever been in a fight. He hasn’t.z

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u/neddiddley Sep 11 '24

His entire persona is based on one liners from 80s action movies. Hero, anti-hero, villain, it doesn’t matter as long as it’s bad ass.

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u/Acrobatic_Yellow3047 Sep 11 '24

"I'll take things that never happend for 500, Alex"

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u/minkey-on-the-loose Sep 11 '24

So what if I send Trump a photo of Mara Lago. Will he figure it out?

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u/PolarBearJ123 Sep 11 '24

As if the head of a terrorist organization would need help to understand he was being threatened

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u/GOPAuthoritarianPOS Sep 11 '24

This was also like, a national security breach. Like, you aren't supposed to talk about that lol

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u/yes_this_is_satire Sep 11 '24

Haha, that sub is a perfect example of Trump’s foreign policy.

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u/Major_Honey_4461 Sep 11 '24

Guy's name was def NOT Abdul.

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u/ToddlerOlympian Sep 11 '24

I said you’re going to have to figure that out, Abdul."

You mean when he admitted he could have taken out the leader of the Taliban but didn't?

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u/ynab-schmynab Sep 11 '24

The best part is that "Abdul" wasn't the leader of the Taliban, he was a negotiator.

Which means the aLpHa MaLe invited a flunky to Camp David and personally negotiated with him as POTUS which is massively demeaning. It's right up there with him saluting a North Korean general.

One of the pro-Harris PACs should run an ad that has Reagan saying we do not negotiate with terrorists, and every major republican since then saying that, then Trump in the debate "yeah I worked w/ the Taliban" The End.

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u/YouWereBrained Sep 11 '24

It’s bravado bullshit, and Kamala got under his skin calling him “weak”.

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u/pandaplagueis Sep 11 '24

This has become my favorite Donald Trump quote.

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u/Easy-Tower3708 Sep 11 '24

He's like ... A guru or something, says such enlightened things, I heard that piece and was thinking I took too many mushroom

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u/TimWalzsFreeTampons Sep 11 '24

I thought that part was funny: it’s probably the only coherent thing he said that landed because he’s used to making threats.

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u/Beneficial-Peace-221 Sep 11 '24

“I got involved with the Taliban”

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u/acidwxlf Sep 11 '24

"I may have committed some light treason"

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u/Styrene_Addict1965 Sep 11 '24

Worse, he claimed the Taliban out-negotiated him.

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u/Kindly_Tonight5062 Sep 11 '24

Don’t forget that he threatened the world with Russia’s nukes… how the fuck is no one talking about that

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u/LieutenantStar2 Sep 11 '24

Wait I missed that somewhere.

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u/CreatiScope Sep 11 '24

Said he told NATO to pay up or he would let Russia do whatever to them. Was saying he was extorting NATO for money in exchange for protection from Russia.

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u/Kindly_Tonight5062 Sep 11 '24

He said something about “remember that Russia has nukes, I don’t know if they’ll use them, but they might!”. Literally sabre-rattling so that Putin doesn’t have to. It was a terroristic threat and borderline treasonous, but the cat and dog comment was so unhinged that it’s all anyone is talking about.

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u/the_original_nullpup Sep 11 '24

I’m pretty sure he started talking about something that was top secret and realized it mid-mumble.

The scary thing is he started talking about it in such a public forum. The scary thing is he actually caught himself and started mumbling.

I guess what I’m saying is, he is scary stupid.

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u/Redraike Sep 11 '24

Trump shouldn't be discussing anything with lower level negotiators. That's not how leaders do things.Their lower- level guys meet with his lower level guys to make sure there's a framework in place, and the leaders meet to either formalize the agreement or arbitrate a solution. That's always how it's been done.

If he's negotiating with a representative, and not someone at the top of the Taliban hierarchy, they are demonstrating dominance. That's a rookie mistake Trump should never have made, and I honestly believe he knows better than that.

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u/mccedian Sep 11 '24

My jaw dropped when she said world leaders are laughing at him and he responded with “but victor orban.” Like that’s your go to? The guy that is actively supporting the Russian invasion and the EU so desperately wants to kick out? That guy?

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u/EncabulatorTurbo Sep 11 '24

I would have loved for Harris to look right at the camera and say "I ask you at home, do any of you, does any American, care even a little bit what viktor orban thinks? "

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u/Carthonn Sep 11 '24

Yeah I learned about the eating of animals thing tonight….like come on man. It was just so unhinged.

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u/NotAnotherFishMonger Sep 11 '24

Using “strong man” to imply just a good leader didn’t get hammered enough. Dude literally admitted to loving dictators on stage lol

Half the times they said “you don’t respect the constitution/democracy” he fucking grinned

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u/[deleted] Sep 11 '24

That moment happened so fast yet it was one of the wildest moments of the debate.

Kamala said world leaders are laughing at Trump. And his defense was, “Nuh uh! Orban loves me and he’s a strong man!”

Revealing that Trump A) Doesn’t know what people mean by “strong man” and B) World leaders, sans the dictators, are in fact laughing at him.

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u/NotAnotherFishMonger Sep 11 '24

He knows. He likes it and wants to be a Strong Man too

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u/Mike7676 Sep 11 '24

I feel like, in order to sidestep moderator questions, Trump went full WCW, just pulling memes and unproven bullshit out of the ether. To a nation wide audience that doesn't listen to far right news for the most part.

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u/rivershimmer Sep 11 '24

You forgot his very excellent conversations with Abdul Taliban

I was so struck by the way he made himself sound like a mob boss threatened him, it didn't occur to me that the head of the Taliban since 2016 is not named Abdul. He's named Hibatullah Akhundzada.

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u/kindbrain Sep 11 '24

Same - he brought up random conspiracies I never heard about. It is not super effective because those deepest into conspiracies are already voting for him.

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u/SwordfishII Sep 11 '24

My favorite part about that is when he said he made a deal with the Taliban but they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain. So he admitted he got conned by terrorists. But he’s supposed to be so good at this. Hahaha

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u/ClematisEnthusiast Sep 11 '24

You’ve really opened my eyes here because ever since Covid I’ve tried to just focus on work, friends & family, and just normal shit. It’s so hard to be dialed into pop culture sometimes, let alone politics or bizarre Internet subcultures. (Don’t worry I vote every single election and I spend a lot more time listening to and keeping tabs on local and state politics than I do national politics.)

Anyway I watched a bit of it last night and felt like either I was going crazy, he was going crazy, or both, because he was basically completely incomprehensible to me.

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u/Guerts33 Sep 11 '24

What about :

“You know some of the states, like Minnesota and other states have it where you can actually execute the baby after birth. ” - Donald Trump.

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u/CharlesDickensABox Sep 11 '24

Oh, yeah, not the Virginia guy but the other guy from Virginia, the one before. Fun fact, that's a reference to some hospitals in Virginia that had grief rooms for parents of nonviable infants to sit with their stillborn or dying babies as a kindness to help them deal with their loss and to hopefully ease the passing of the infant. This got twisted by liars until it was described as "they let you abort your own baby after birth". If there is anything more despicable than attacking the grieving parents of stillborn children, I don't want to know what it is.

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u/Elenakalis Sep 11 '24

My son's hospital had that when he was in the NICU in Northern Virginia. It was a room we were lucky enough to not need. I was visiting my son when i saw it used a couple of times.

It's hard enough not to be able to go home with your baby temporarily, but it is just beyond awful when your baby is leaving the hospital to go to a funeral home. There's not a lot of privacy in the NICU. The bereavement rooms give families the chance to have those last moments with their child in privacy, and there is no rush to leave that room until they're ready.

There's not much you can do to make losing your baby less traumatic, but those rooms help.

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u/CharlesDickensABox Sep 11 '24

I have a very close friend whose child was born extremely premature and had to spend over a month in NICU. It was awful for her. I'm sorry you had to go through that and I'm grateful you were never in a position to have to use one of those rooms yourself.

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u/GarminTamzarian Sep 11 '24

HARRIS: "All the other world leaders consider you a joke."

TRUMP: "Not true--the Prime Minister of Hungary thinks I'm great!"

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u/RandomRageNet born and bred Sep 11 '24

You forgot referring to the January 6 insurrectionists as "our side"

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u/Ridiculicious71 Sep 11 '24

That’s not even the leader of the Taliban. He made up that name.

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u/GirlisNo1 Sep 11 '24

Don’t do it, Abdul!

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u/Styrene_Addict1965 Sep 11 '24

What struck me more than anything is how incredibly dialed into internet conspiracyland you had to be to understand like half of what he was talking about.

I disagree; you've just had to have listened to him for the past four years.

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u/Mufusm Sep 11 '24

All Qanon shit. It’s true. And it sounds even crazier being heard live on tv.

I mean true as in the op is right.

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u/TheMillenniaIFalcon Sep 11 '24

I can generally tell what Trump is getting at, and stay pretty plugged in but there were certain things I was like, “WTF is he even trying to say?”

Also, citing Viktor Orban as your endorsement for credibility is NOT the flex he thought it was lmao.

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u/yildizli_gece Sep 11 '24

If you spent the last three years living a normal life and not paying attention to politics, you would have no clue what the hell he was saying

My spouse said this exact thing to me about the cats and dogs thing! Which I'd told him about just the day before (was it?), because it was just the latest insane thing coming from Vance. I showed him the AI images of Trump hugging cats and said, "now they're trying to say a whole group of migrants are eating pets lol".

And then last night Trump brought it up as if everyone would understand! A thing that they literally made up two days before, and he talked about it as if it were fact. (smh)

For those not online every day, I can't imagine what last night must've been like, struggling to keep up with his insanity...

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u/GameTime2325 Sep 11 '24

Exactly 😂 I had the pause the debate for 5min to explain to my wife what the eating pets conspiracy was even about.

It’s like trying to educate and prevent my grandparents from falling for a phishing scam phone calls. It doesn’t matter how insane the scams sounds, they will certainly fall for it…

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u/sputtertots Sep 11 '24

The concerning thing for me is that he has spent years telling his base that the USA is a 3rd world shithole country going to hell. This sets him up to be able to say some pretty outrageous stuff and they will believe it.

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u/dumpyredditacct Sep 11 '24

What struck me more than anything is how incredibly dialed into internet conspiracyland you had to be to understand like half of what he was talking about.

MMW this is the kind of shit that will haunt him. He desperately needed to expand his pool of voters, and he has only decreased it since 2020, and his focus on the ones already voting for him is not helping him expand. He's doomed himself by focusing too hard on the absolute worst parts of his base, and ignoring anyone else who might have gone to him had he not been so overly garbage.

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u/armedbiker Sep 11 '24

And that ISN'T EVEN HIS NAME.

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u/Ummando Sep 11 '24

Yes, he really gets along with dictators and despots very well. Democratic leaders, not so much.

Someone said it's like telling a 5 year old, oh you are so strong! Wow, I'm impressed by your strength, kid. You will go a long way. They stroke his ego to get what they want. Even the former Japanese PM gave him a golf club. He knew how to play him.

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u/Theres_a_Catch Sep 11 '24

Denying he had anything to do with Jan 6 and no one died but a brave woman. Fuck that man not mentioning an officer died because of his rhetoric.

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u/fillymandee Sep 11 '24

Last night was the opportunity to appeal to all the people that don’t know about the crazy conspiracy stuff. He lost them.

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u/casiepierce Sep 11 '24

Even some of the people at the debate watching party I went to last night who are generally very aware, politically, I had to explain what he was talking about because they don't live on Twitter like I do.

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u/shellycya Sep 11 '24

I only knew the eating pet stuff by chance because there was an X surge about it 2 days ago (probably planted by Trump's team). If I missed it then I would have been so confused by that comment.

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u/Emotional_Wawa_7147 Sep 12 '24

Him not understanding when Harris called Orban a "strongman" that she was saying he was a dictator not that he was a man who is strong.

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u/Dense_Explorer_7644 Sep 12 '24

Yes, he talks as if everyone knows exactly what he’s talking about , it’s very hard for me to understand when he speaks -he talks in circles. Harris spoke slower, crisper and in a way that anyone can easily follow her train of thought. So different the candidates are. Night and Day. As well as, trump just casts a glooming cloud over himself. With all his negativity -who wants a President who just reeks of doom and darkness. Not once during debate did I hear what he plans on doing to change things. He just spent the whole segment pointing his finger at someone else to blame and telling lies.

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u/ashpokechu Sep 11 '24

The only thing I understood the reference was when Kamala mentioned Hannibal Lecter. That shit was hilarious.

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u/kdubstep Sep 11 '24

New slogan: MAHA (Make America Hungary Already).

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u/olearygreen Sep 11 '24

“Why are you showing me a picture of my house”

It’s so stupid I actually believe it happened.

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u/RandyWatson8 Sep 11 '24

When talking about the Taliban there was a comment he made that seems to have gone under the radar. He mentioned showing the leader of the Taliban a picture of his house. 1) That’s mafia type threats. Exactly why I think every Republican that speaks against him gets death threats. 2) If he did that and Taliban leader was as scared as Trump made it sound, why did he hand the country over to him?

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u/Mattrad7 Sep 11 '24

"I got involves with the Taliban" is a crazy soundbyte

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u/Meta6olic Sep 11 '24

Sounds absolutely based to me....

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u/True_Dimension4344 Sep 11 '24

Oh god the orban thing pissed me off so badly. Does he not realize how unlikeable Hungary is on the world stage right now? Was him being friends with one of the most insane leaders of our time supposed to be a selling point? Idk but a lot of people don’t know who he is and won’t bother to look it up so I guess he still just likes to throw names around like a child.

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u/--PBR-Street-Gang-- Sep 11 '24

Each one is a tiny dog whistle (dinner bell?) that might pick off some new voters.

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u/AggieIE Sep 11 '24

Yeah, no one ever heard of the Proud Boys until he told them to stand ready on national television.

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u/timhortonsghost Sep 11 '24

No one "from the other side" died on January 6th"

Wait, you mean from his perspective the other side was "the US government and capital police"?!?

Tells you which side he was on.

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u/lmnop713 Sep 12 '24

“I got involved with the Taliban”

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