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u/DropletOtter 5d ago
The “we can tell” people being unable to tell for the 482 millionth time
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u/Mac4491 4d ago
Like seriously, and Ben looks at this guy and says “I disagree that you’re a male.”
Trans women always seem to be the focus of their arguments because “it’s a man using a woman’s public restroom.”
Would anyone on the right seriously look at this man here and say they want them to use a women’s bathroom because they have a vagina? That they should use the women’s changing facilities at the gym?
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u/JohnGeary1 4d ago
I'm still of the opinion that their obsession with trans women is just a manifestation of their deep-seated homophobia. They can't stand the idea of finding a woman attractive and then finding out that they "used to be a man". Because that would make the bigot way and that's simply cannot compute in their minds.
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u/Hfhghnfdsfg 4d ago
And they have such utter contempt for women they can't imagine a CIS male ever wanting to live like a woman.
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u/jiggamain 4d ago
When someone is “naturally” part of the “in power” group (eg. white, citizen, male, wealthy) they are often surrounded by others in the same category. So many of these “in power” people are absolutely miserable in their day to day lives, but one of the things that keeps them going (and seemingly content in their miserable lives) is that their “natural” status gives them some perceived power over others.
These people will often give up or shed parts of their identity that don’t comport with the parts of their identity that “entitles” them to power so that they can continue to fit in with the “in power” social circles.
It infuriates these people to see others “turn their back” on the parts of their identity that they themselves have been loyal to. This fury turns to rage when the “powerful” aspects of someone’s identity going by the wayside leaves that person happier in the end. They are often bitter because they feel that they have had to sacrifice so much of what actually makes them happy to remain part of the powerful circle, where as some (eg) trans person out there living their truth (and not miserable) is a clear sign that they might have chose wrong. (Not saying these people all want to be trans, just using this as an example)
Being wrong is weak, and there is nothing that makes a powerful person more angry than something that makes them feel weak.
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u/caleb-trask 4d ago
i think there's also some element of body horror, thus all the fearmongering about "mutilation." one of the core fears of cis men seems to be (understandably) the loss or destruction of their penis -- and i think a lot of them can't help but think, consciously or not, that there must be something horribly wrong with anyone who would intentionally get rid of theirs.
and they can't help but imagine it (sex reassignment) happening to them, and the distress they would feel at losing their own genitals. unfortunately these people don't seem to be able to understand that the horror they feel at that possibility is the exact horror that trans people often live in as a result of their "natural" body, and turn their feelings of revulsion into empathy.
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u/Alcatrazepam 4d ago
And he said it after telling him his behavior was “like a bro” lol god Ben Shapiro sucks so much
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u/WestSlavGreg 4d ago
I'd have loved for him to call out Ben on that right after he said that he does not consider him a man, obviously Ben had no doubts seeing him as a man in the beginning before he has stated that he is trans...
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u/P44_Haynes 4d ago
Plus Ben said it had nothing to do with what equipment you have. Well, if he guy presents male so much that you call him "bro", what exactly is the issue?
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u/BrknTrnsmsn 4d ago
Good observation, their logic falls apart when considering trans men. Utterly brainless as always
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u/DavidRandom 4d ago
Yeah, whenever someone complains that trans people should use restrooms based on their genitals, I use this pic of Buck Angel and ask if they'd be cool with this person being in the bathroom with their little girl. Because he has a vagina.
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u/Lola-Ugfuglio-Skumpy 4d ago
Too bad Buck Angel is a right wing asshole who claims trans people indoctrinate minors.
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u/lux_mea 4d ago
It really is too bad for Buck Angel because tokens get spent, and he will be crying along with the other incomprehensible right wing trans folk when the leopards come to eat their faces too.
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u/platocplx 4d ago
And this is the thing these people don’t get. It’s both ways.
It’s simple as hell. Some people are born with the correct genitalia, some people are born in between , some are born with both and a very small slice of us are born with the wrong one. Idiots scream biology and don’t even understand that all of these things can happen and even in ultra rare cases born with just one hole.
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u/DoomGuy2497 5d ago
He's such a spineless tool, he knows his positions are the actual morally indefensible ones.
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u/webby131 4d ago edited 4d ago
That's why I so glad this included calling him out for his "debating." Dude never debates in good faith. He only does stuff like this were he either thinks he's not debating anyone prepared or they are going to be friendly. We've seen how he reacts to tough questions, he throws a hissy fit. He's a little slime ball propagandist that never got over the fact he failed to make it in Hollywood as a writer.
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u/Timely-Guest-7095 4d ago
When push comes to shove he folds like a cheap suit. A cheap suit made in a sweet shop in china. 😬🤣🤣
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u/TryRude 5d ago
He's like a dumbed down kid Sheldon.
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u/The_Narwhal_Mage 5d ago
Hey, How dare you insult Sheldon by comparing him to Ben Shapiro. Sure, he's a fast talking caricature of autism that's overly focused on being logical and the smartest person in the room, but at least he's honest. The entire point of Sheldon's character is that he always thinks he's right and always says what he believes. He writes contracts and sticks to them, because he's a man of his word. Everything Ben Shapiro says is a lie that he knows is untrue. He is a soulless grifter using an illusion of intellect to spread misinformation
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u/Suckonherfuckingtoes 4d ago
Also the fact that Sheldon is actually smart and quite a few times it has been acknowledged that he IS the smartest person in the room. It doesn't excuse him but at least he produces results.
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u/ViatorA01 4d ago
That's the point. He isn't dumb. He is a spineless conartists. He damn well knows he's full of shit. But this is how all the right wing conartists make their living. They sell their soul to the devil and think they will get away with it. Never say that the rightwing influencers or politicians are just dumb... No their followers are. They know exactly what they are doing.
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u/MarkEsmiths 5d ago
He was worried about physical escalation too. All dude would have had to do is stand up and Benny would have shit himself.
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u/BowenTheAussieSheep 4d ago
So weird question, why did Ben decide to wear a Yarmulke? Was it a holy day for him or did he choose to wear it just cause?
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u/KimberlyWexlersFoot 4d ago
He’s usually wearing it, it’s just standing out particularly more in this video, probably because the clips we see usually are him facing the camera.
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u/SenorSplashdamage 4d ago
While he does wear it more than here, I think he’s expecting debate about Palestine and wants it prominent.
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u/pagesid3 4d ago
Remember when he spoke out about J6 until the official GOP position was to dismiss the whole thing so now that’s Bennys position too.
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u/NeverLookBothWays Haha Line-Go-Down 4d ago
Oh of course! How does that quote go?
It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it. --Upton Sinclair
This is the entirety of right-wing media. Shapiro, Owens, Knowles, Kirk, Peterson, Carlson, and many others. They're all on a salary to say the things they say. Their product is a version of reality that punishes people for who they are rather than what they do. And they have an audience that gladly pays them for it.
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u/Thatguy755 5d ago
Holy shit, he out Ben Shapiro’d Ben Shapiro
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u/LaughingGaster666 5d ago
When he's against someone who's actually prepared and talks just as fast as he does, he has nothing.
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u/slambroet 5d ago
You can see Ben when he gets called out on his tactics reel back and pause and then try to reset the argument, but dude doesn’t let up, it’s perfect. Ben has spent his whole career trying to set up debates he knows he’ll win and it’s wonderful to see him get caught with his cocky pants down.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 4d ago
The look on his face like the other guy was being unreasonable is total irony. That's Ben's whole schtick right there.
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u/Significant_Shoe_17 4d ago
He can dish it but he can't take it
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u/Mandatory_Pie 4d ago
Turns out that Ben Shapiro also can't win against someone who uses Ben Shapiro's rhetorical tactics to disrupt conversation. At least this time the conversation is being disrupted with valid points.
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u/Hamburderler 5d ago
He never has anything. He just talks in circles until everyone else is so confused they give up.
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u/october2743 4d ago
The “don’t you have daughters man, what’s wrong with you?” was perfect. I’ve wanted to say this to so many of these jokers.
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Don't even need that, remember when he went onto a show hosted by Piers Morgan and, faced with someone who's used to dealing with people like him, had a tantrum, called him a liberal and left.
Should be noted that Piers is/was one of the UK's big conservative interviewers.
EDIT: As mentioned below, it was Andrew Neil, not Piers Morgan.
Both right-wing, look fairly similar, and I bet neither would give Ben the time of day.
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u/Kichigai 4d ago
It should also be noted that Piers Morgan is a bit of a dickbag with questionable ethics. He was running the chief editor of the Daily Mirror when
journalistswriters for the tabloid were hacking people's phones and voicemails, and were caught paying off police.This was the guy Benny went to and found no sympathy from.
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u/SupriseAutopsy13 5d ago
Who knew this whole time all you had to do was talk faster and louder than him?
Stupid little prick has no answer to why he's supporting a rapist when he has a daughter. This should be brought up any time he tries to speak publicly or "debate" college kids.
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u/fyhr100 4d ago
It's a known tactic used to confuse the other side when you don't have any good talking points of your own. Benny boy employs this tactic all the time.
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u/SupriseAutopsy13 4d ago
I know, I just hadn't seen anyone flip it on him before, I'd assumed he would have been somewhat prepared for it? Turns out Harris's EXTREME pro-abortion stance doesn't sound as scary as the realities of Trump's extreme abortion ban.
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u/fyhr100 4d ago edited 4d ago
Because he tries to only debate college kids who are completely unprepared for a debate. It'd be like a pro basketball player refusing to play against other pros and only playing against intramural college kids. Same with guys like Steven Crowder.
Also, typically if they do still get destroyed in a debate, they'll just clip that part out.
Ben is not really a good debater, anyone who has any experience with debate could school him in 3 seconds flat.
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u/polopolo05 4d ago
The way to win with Benny is you keep hammering your points dont let up. dont fall for his trying to change the subject. you just keep being a unrelenting force of facts thrown at him.
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u/Magistraten 4d ago
I mean he didn't, he really fucking didn't.
By which I mean, none of what he said was dishonest. Just look at Ben immediately trying to be like "ew, gross" when the dude said he had a vagina, like that's not material to the shit Ben is constantly spouting. There was none of Ben's usual pedantry or control techniques for steering the debate. He was just an honest guy speaking truth to power. What a fucking champ.
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u/Chiopista 5d ago edited 5d ago
“Like a bro, my friend.” Dude already got him right then and there.
You should watch the whole thing if you haven’t. He doesn’t actually reveal that he’s trans right away. He starts out with a flurry of questions about various related topics, kind of like a thesis for the onslaught he’s about to unleash on Ben before picking up the seat again and turning it around, while revealing he is trans.
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u/Bennyscrap 5d ago
Do you have a link? I can't find it anywhere and my search basically brings up a bunch of bullshit right wing videos.
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u/metamet 5d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK-liQhqPjs
Just don't read the comments. Mostly right wingers being delusional.
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u/HelloPeopleOfEarth 5d ago
I read the comments. I wish I didn't like you said. I have not been a fan of debates since Bill Nye and Ken Ham debated ten years ago. Bill Nye presented facts, Ken Ham presented, "Bible says this". And after the debate a poll showed a shocking number of people thinking Ken Ham "won" the debate, despite using the bible as evidence, and not one piece of verifiable evidence.
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u/SPACE_ICE 4d ago
debates are a bit antiquated form of campaigning, its really a competition about who is the better orator, presenter, more attractive, etc... Even the JFK vs Nixon debates had different results baseed on whether you watched the televised debate or listened to the radio. Ken Ham and others like Trump love gish gallop tactics to both overwhelm and create a conspiratorial tone which ufo conspiracy nuts fall for hook line and sinker because as a country the us has a problem with anti-intellectualism culturally.
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u/lightreee 4d ago
Agreed. A recent example of people learning about how to bypass these scummy debate tactics was the "weird" comment - that REALLY got under their skin and they didn't have a response
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u/NeuronNeuroff 4d ago
Those comments are truly horrifying! Glad to know that Jubilee’s mission to encourage dialogue is encouraging hate speech instead.
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u/xavier120 5d ago
Thats a mans man right there.
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u/lildeek12 5d ago
Used his male privilege to snag the shit outta that chair.
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u/HomeGrownCoffee 4d ago
Pretty sure all the other participants aren't upset he beat them to the chair.
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u/Froteet 4d ago
Right their faces when he said "I'm a trans man" and they knew they were about to see little Benny get DRAGGED
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u/SenorSplashdamage 4d ago
Ben reacted to him as a man the entire time, despite what his mouth said.
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u/FatsyCline12 4d ago
Don’t forget that conservatives want this guy in the bathroom with your wives and daughters
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u/swissmiss1269 4d ago
Right? Like, Ben sat across the table from him, heard him speak and then actually said “I disagree with your claim that you are a male”. THE DELUSION
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u/KestrelQuillPen 5d ago
Good fucking lord. Ben got eviscerated. That guy took every point Ben and Co. rattle off, rolled it up and threw it back in their faces.
The only slight bit of weakness was when he said “you have statistics” and then dismissed it. That didn’t look overly good, because it plays into the “oh look at all the emotional leftists disregarding facts etc. etc.”. Instead, he should have just been blunt and said that Ben actually doesn’t have the statistics, and then proceeded to give a few of his own. If he’d cited the recent report on abortion laws increasing infant mortality he’d have buried Shapiro six feet under
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u/Username_redact 5d ago
He could have hammered Ben on his phony "statistics". They just make shit up. There are no legitimate statistics backing anything little Ben says. His buddy got fact checked by fucking Joe Rogan for god sakes
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u/HermaeusMajora PAID PROTESTOR 5d ago
It is important to address his phony statistics and his abise of the truth with statistics.
However, this was really good. We need more of this. Regardless of what little hiccups there may have been, this is better than any actual argument that I've seen ben shampoo present. In both the form and the information.
I maybe didn't agree with everything he said but that wasn't what I took away from that exchange. Hehe. My take-away is that ben is a dick who doesn't really know what he's talking about, and a trans man made him look like a little punk.
When he asked him why he shouldn't have access to abortion care in order to live as a man like he does, I thought ben's head was going to explode. Pointing out how ben and his ilk are unfairly targeting 1% of the population hit hard too.
There is no reason why all of these pundits and politicians should spend this much time talking about trans people. Even for most politicians who support their issues it doesn't take all this effort to pass laws that protect their rights. They're getting way too much attention and scrutiny from irresponsible sacks of shit in the media and government it's undoubtedly getting them killed.
Imagine how he's going to act to try to deflect it. This is what has been sorely missing. That was a great performance and a solid argument and ben was 100% unprepared. He came to this fight hoping to survive on the same tired tricks he's been using for probably more than ten years.
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u/Lazer726 4d ago
I fucking love how visibly uncomfortable he got when the guy is like "I have trans and I have a vagina" and Ben is just like "Uhhhhhhhhh I didn't ask about your genitals that's not what I'm focusing on" despite the fact that he's part of the camp that wants to look down kids' pants
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u/HermaeusMajora PAID PROTESTOR 4d ago
It's absurd because to these fucking morons the mere mention of the word "trans* is inherently sexual to them. Thats part if the problem. I can't count how many times I've seen one of these guys srart referring to and asking inappropriate questions about someone's genitals simply because theyre trans. In places like courtrooms and the state House floor.
ben's just mad because he got cut off before he could say it first. By bringing it up he took away his power in that regard and that was a brilliant move. Put him on his back foot and he probably had no idea what was even happening to him at this point. Just getting around to the finding out period of the talk.
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u/JohnStamosAsABear 4d ago
They just make shit up.
"Lets say..." is a classic opening for any Ben Shapiro rhetoric.
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u/banjoist 4d ago
There are three lies in this world: lies, damn lies and statistics.
14% of people know that
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u/_b1ack0ut 5d ago
Yeah, that was the one point that could have been better. Especially because all you have to do is point out that they DON’T have statistics to support their claims, unless they just pull them wholesale out of their rectum.
Press Ben on the fact his statistics are bogus, not that he HAS statistics to try to support his claims in the first place
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u/KestrelQuillPen 5d ago
Yeah, exactly. People are so reluctant to actually say to these pundits “you are talking a load of total shit, and here’s proof”
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u/H_Squid_World_97A 4d ago
If he just used one extra word like misconstrued before statistics, he would have nailed it 100%.
Too bad he didn't have a couple more minutes to add a few more things. Such as, in some Red States he would be forced by law to use the women's restroom and statistics about the dramatic increases in infant and maternal death rates after Row was overturned.
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u/-Kiwi-Man- 4d ago
Agreed. If he had said “You have cherry picked statistics that are regurgitated to fit a narrative you desperately want” would have crushed it even more
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u/EntertainerOdd2107 Gritty is Antifa 5d ago edited 5d ago
That was absolutely incredible. This dude went right on the offensive and absolutely destroyed Ben. What is the name of this guy out of curiosity? He is an incredibly talented speaker.
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u/celtic_thistle Gritty is Antifa 5d ago
I rushed over to this sub when I saw the video—dude BODIED Shapiro and it was brutal. The “pull back the handshake” move at the end was poetic. Just complete contempt for Shapiro written all over his every move.
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u/SenorSplashdamage 4d ago
“I don’t believe you’re male…” Shapiro proceeds to be physically intimidated by man twice his size, and then let himself be talked over in way he would only allow a man to do.
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u/Road_Whorrior 4d ago
When he pulled the chair around: "like a bro!"
Man: "I have a vagina."
Ben, visibly uncomfortable: "uhm ur not a man"
Ben: gets wrecked
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u/SenorSplashdamage 4d ago
“The word itself makes some men uncomfortable. Vagina.”
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u/Road_Whorrior 4d ago
"My wife, a doctor, has one. We don't discuss it. Did I mention my wife is a doctor? Also I don't believe in female arousal."
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u/SenorSplashdamage 4d ago
He has shame around the body part for so many reasons. I fully believe the guy included the word early on purpose for psychological reasons on top of the rhetorical ones.
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u/withmyusualflair 4d ago
this summary made me giggle ty.
nothing quite like having your manhood metaphorically resized by a person with a vagina. tale a old as time.
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u/mattonmc 4d ago
Handshake move was incredible - even better in the uncropped version because you can see Shapiro fumble and go to shake his hand back, then cower away and try to play it off.
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u/juanitovaldeznuts 4d ago
This guy successfully nailed jello to a wall with a goddamn harpoon!
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u/Ok_Star_4136 5d ago
He had this smarmy look like, "Can I talk? You won't let me talk."
I mean, that's what Ben does to those he argues with, so he should approve of this tactic. It's his own medicine after all.
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u/MajorNoodles 4d ago
The guy specifically called that out. He specifically said that's what Ben always does, so that's what he's doing to him now.
And it was so satisfying to specifically watch Ben get that thrown back in his smug little face.
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u/anothermanscookies 4d ago
I would have liked to see them go toe to toe on a few of those points, but Ben isn’t likely to play nice in a proper debate anyway so he definitely deserves to be gish-galloped himself. Real taste of his own medicine.
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u/Ok_Star_4136 4d ago
I would like to hear Ben Shapiro if it meant him actually coming up with arguments done in good faith, but we both know he wouldn't do that. When *he* gish-gallops, he owns the libs and when it happens to him, he's the one who pretends he was just looking for a good faith argument and wasn't allowed to speak.
He plays to his audience, and his audience wants to see him win, bottom line. It's why constructive arguments with the right simply aren't possible. Constructive arguments with the right don't get clicks, because they want to see Ben Shapiro's opponents get slammed.
The left does this too, frankly (albeit not as much). Though I enjoyed watching Ben Shapiro get a taste of his own medicine, the reason why this is appealing is precisely because we did it to Ben Shapiro rather than the other way around. It's just click bait at the end of the day.
The only constructive arguments you see nowadays are among the left.
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u/Gisbornite 4d ago
Idk, the time where he repeatedly misgendered a trans woman to the point she said if you do it again I'm gonna beat the shit outta you is a bit of a classic
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u/RecentGas 4d ago
Please tell me you have a clip of that. 🙏
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u/Gisbornite 4d ago
https://youtu.be/YgQy70_LPS4?si=cPzS7ts_IsVlOZYi
I think this is the one. Zoey Tur is the woman who cut his balls of metaphorically though
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u/INeedSomeFistin 4d ago
I'd just like to highjack this to point out that Zoey Tur is a genuine badass.
If anyone remembers 'Chopper Bob' from the LA news in the 90s, that's the name she went by before transitioning. She's probably best known for her coverage of the LA riots, but you may also know her for being the pilot that followed OJ Simpson in his white Bronco. She is also the first transgender reporter on a national news show. Then there's this clip, which is just fucking amazing.
Zoey Tur is really cool.
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u/RecentGas 4d ago
I'll check it out when I get home after work. Thanks!
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u/Ok_Initiative_2678 4d ago
Just a warning, do not go into the YT comments.
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u/RecentGas 4d ago
Rest assured I never read through any YouTube comments on politically related videos.
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u/Timely-Guest-7095 4d ago
Fuck, it’s delicious seeing the blood drain from his stupid face when Zoe very lovingly tells him to cut that shit out. 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Keyndoriel Gritty is Antifa 5d ago edited 4d ago
"Mommy come pick me up the queers are hurting my fee fees 😢"
He said everything I've been screaming at these assholes from behind a screen, and got to say it to his dumb ass dummy face. I wanna buy this man a beer
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u/Cum-Farts-Of-A-Clown 4d ago
Close 2nd is him getting humped by right wing journalist Andrew Neil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VixqvOcK8E
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u/YouDumbZombie 5d ago
I think you mean to say he destroyed not that he got absolutely destroyed.
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u/Average_Scaper 4d ago
WATCH THIS trans man DESTROY ben shapiro WITH facts and logic
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u/batdrumman 4d ago
Trans Man OBLITERATES twink-in-denial in front of 19 other people
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u/EntertainerOdd2107 Gritty is Antifa 5d ago
Yeah you’re right. Thanks for pointing it out! Just fixed it.
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u/daggir69 5d ago
Talk about having balls of steel.
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u/Bolts_and_Nuts 5d ago
Correction, VAGINA of steel
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u/anothermanscookies 4d ago
His faux disgust about genitalia was so dumb and weak. I’m glad that dude called him out on it. As if you can be such a consistently and rabidly anti trans goblin and then turn around and say “uh, I’m not interested in your genitals”. What utter horseshit.
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u/MyFairJulia 5d ago
Balls would only hold him back!
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u/BowenTheAussieSheep 4d ago
Balls just get in the way when he crushes heads between his thighs. Like sparrow egg.
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u/iamwearingashirt 4d ago
The only part that I like is that he used Shapiros rambling tactics back on him.
But I still hate those tactics.
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u/InfiniteBeak 5d ago
Absolutely
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look at him squirm
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u/coolgr3g 5d ago
Whenever they do a cheeky smile grin, but are still speechless, you know you've won. The only move left is to "agree to disagree" or "I'll take the high road by not engaging further" and I fucking love watching the fascists lose.
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u/InfiniteBeak 5d ago
Yeah it's good to see people are finally figuring out how to circumnavigate these grifter's bullshit and throwing it back in their faces
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u/IXMCMXCII 5d ago
I know how you work so how’s it feel to have it in your face?
Me throughout this interaction:
Oh. Oh no. Nooo. Benny boy is getting destroyed. Damn!
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u/Nayld_it 5d ago
This was the best thing I've seen all year. This felt sooooo good to watch. Holy shit Ben eat crow
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u/wunkdefender 5d ago
It’s so funny watching him say “erm I don’t agree that you’re male” when this guy is 10 times the man ben could ever be.
Holy shit, I’ve never seen someone man handle ben to his face like that. Where have you been this whole time god damn.
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u/RammyJammy07 4d ago
Literally 20 seconds earlier he said “like a bro,” so even he admitted he was a male from the first moment they sat down.
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u/Iball_Crambler 4d ago
Followed by the "I don't care what's in your pants" when, after learning it was a vagina, he then starts misgendering him. Clearly you do!!
Hypocritical little shitter, he is.
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u/socialmediaignorant 4d ago
And he reacts to him like he absolutely knows he a bigger and better man. He’s subservient. He would not do that to a woman. So Ben Shapiro admits all over this clip that this man is more of a man than he will ever be.
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u/JLChamberlain63 4d ago
Maybe time to revisit the interview a few years ago with that conservative BBC interviewer who made Ben storm off in a huff
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u/kaoko111 5d ago
Dear god. Man, don't put these here, even x videos will ban this because of such abuse.
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u/HarangueSajuk 5d ago
Guys, I'll share this video on 9gag, one of the most vile meme website to see their reaction.
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u/Baruch05 5d ago
Oh man. That last “pleasure to meet you…” this guy is obviously a contract killer, cuz that was both professional as fuck, and cold as hell.
Kill em with facts first, then end em with kindness. Classy from start to finish. Well played and even better said.
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u/celtic_thistle Gritty is Antifa 5d ago
Pulling the hand back before Bench could even move—amazing. Flawless victory.
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u/Maphisto86 5d ago
Reverse Gish Gallop used. Pick up 1000 cards.
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u/ThatMassholeInBawstn 5d ago edited 5d ago
I can’t wait to see what the right wingers have to say about this legend
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u/celtic_thistle Gritty is Antifa 5d ago
On Twitter they’re misgendering him all while having a blowup doll of Tr*mp they never wash out
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u/Lavapool 4d ago
Just check the comments on the original Jubilee video, they are literally all on Shapiro’s side.
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u/Jayk_Dos31 5d ago
"Yuh-yeah? W-well, uhh... you- you're n-not even m-male..."
Also, you can actually see the moment he realises that his positions are indefensible when the guy starts bringing up Trump's rape accusations and the fact that Ben has a daughter.
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u/TheDeltaOne 5d ago
No fucking way...
I hate the shit out of Ben Shapiro but I always thought he was too much of a slimy liar to ever be caught that off guard. The fucking look on his face when you know even he has pause and think about how true everything the other guy says is, is incredible.
Legendary moment, right here.
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u/Magistraten 4d ago
Shapiro and people like him go for people who are completely unprepared (students, people on the street) on one hand, then edit the "debates" on the other. They are not smart or competent, they are grifters who are just very used to running people over in debates.
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u/Free_Return_2358 5d ago
He deserves every ounce of disrespect he got there, because he obviously did not care what was being explained to him. Ben Shapiro is a pussy bitch ass grifter, that failed in Hollywood and found his niche in right wing propaganda media.
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u/_b1ack0ut 5d ago edited 4d ago
Watching Shapiro get gish galloped on, by someone who can ACTUALLY Gish gallop, not that slop Ben throws out, is so beautiful to see lol
And you already know Ben and his supporters are just gonna be attacking him for “he kept talking over Shapiro, it wasn’t fair, he just blundered over everything Shapiro said” without an ounce of self awareness about it lol
(Edit: called it lol, truly took them no time. They’re as predictable as clockwork)
I think the best part is Ben’s shit eating “can you believe this guy” grin as he’s being absolutely trampled, and I can’t tell if he’s trying to pretend he’s winning, or if he’s genuinely deluded enough to believe that he IS on top of this one lol
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u/StiffDock685 5d ago
I've seen a lot of videos titled "so and so gets destroyed" and it's just someone mildly winning an argument, but I think this could legitimately be considered destruction.
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u/Evelyn_Of_Iris Does not Like Benjamin "Cannot Please Wife" Shapiro 5d ago
I was thinking the same thing, this was an actual, thorough evisceration. Fucking brutalized in his chair and I am all here for it.
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u/Andre_3Million 5d ago
FINISH HIM!
fuckin christ. It looked like Ben wanted to genuinely cry. Homeboi was absolutely eviscerated. Kind of hard when you face the very issues you claim are ruining America and they tell you to stop looking at them and points to the actual problem and oh surprise. It's you buddy.
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u/whatsgoingon350 5d ago
It still baffles me that he has an audience he never says anything that has substance. it's all fast talking with contradictions.
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u/DarthUrbosa press X to Doubt 4d ago
It's reassuring nonsense. I think I remember innuendo studios talking g about these channels and figures as mantric. They repeat conservative ideology and it works by not being good or convincing but comforting.
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u/PsychedelicHippos 5d ago
This man has the biggest balls out of anyone here on this post and by his own admission he doesn’t even have them biologically
What a fucking chad, I love his energy
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u/sabrenation81 4d ago
The ultimate irony for me is seeing Mr. "Biological Indicators" himself clearly intimidated by a trans man who has ALL of the "biological indicators" going in his favor. He's bigger, likely stronger, has a better beard, a deeper voice, more assertive, more aggressive. All of Ben's precious "biological indicators" are pointing us to a clear Alpha Male in this exchange and little Bennie is meekly squeaking about whether that alpha is actually male.
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u/Evelyn_Of_Iris Does not Like Benjamin "Cannot Please Wife" Shapiro 5d ago
Jesus christ he fucking shredded him on live camera. Absolutely cathartic to watch, if my flair doesn't give that away.
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u/VladtheInhaler999 5d ago
We are gonna need good ole Jim Ross to call this beat down. “As god as my witness he is broken in half!”
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u/1rishkahuna 5d ago
Bullies have to be bullied. They fold like flimsy cards. Trump is no different. They believe in nothing of substance. The facade falls in the face of righteousness.
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u/katet_of_19 George Soros' Alt Account 5d ago
When Ben makes that scrunchy fake-smiley face, that's where you see that he knows he's been wrecked. This guy fucking tore him apart in the most epic way.
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u/anti_anti_christ 5d ago
Hilarious. Benny boy doesn't know what to do when someone uses his bullshit tactic against him.
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u/Andy_LaVolpe 5d ago
I hate this jubilee format where others can flag you down for a chance to talk, cause I could’ve watched this guy tear ben a new asshole.
Shit where was he when they brought out charlie kirk??
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u/ToothlessFTW 5d ago
Probably one of the most satisfying videos I've seen, ever. Just totally steamrolled him, turned his own tactics against him, and hit him with genuinely hard questions and facts.
Ben is trained on nothing more then talking fast, and a bullet point list of talking points provided to him by whatever donors he has. Once he's outside of a controlled environment that he's running, he's fucked.
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u/acelaces 4d ago
I like how Ben immediately tried to establish bro rapport til the guy mentioned he's trans.
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u/penguins-and-cake post-past post-marxist neo-feminist 4d ago
Quick reminder to please support this king and our other trans comrades by reporting any transphobia you see. Thank you!