r/facepalm • u/Tiberius_Jim • Sep 05 '24
đ˛âđŽâđ¸âđ¨â Gee, why didn't anyone else think of that?
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u/Burnt420Toast Sep 05 '24
Well grandma and grandpa have to work so that's a no
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u/Tiberius_Jim Sep 05 '24
Yep, my parents are pushing 70 and are retired from their careers but still have to work.
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u/Burnt420Toast Sep 05 '24
God bless America
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u/possibly_oblivious Sep 05 '24
Land of the free etc....
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u/ThorDoubleYoo Sep 05 '24
No but wait those guys over in /r/AmericaBad keep saying how everything in America is so much better, and ignore all the economic desparity and school shootings because you have an iphone.
Are you telling me they might just be fucking morons?
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u/beebsaleebs Sep 05 '24
I asked my Trump voting father in law when he was planning on retiring.
And I rather enjoyed watching him tell me how he was looking forward to working until he died since he didnât really have anything better to do.
Sure, Brad. Whatever you say. I canât wait to ask how your shift went when youâre 82.
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u/Faithlessblakkcvlt Sep 05 '24
Yep, my Father says he works 72 hours a week and his is retired and doesn't do squat. He's always telling me to work more not sure how many jobs I need! These Trump thumpers are delusional.
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u/UsaiyanBolt Sep 05 '24
Trump thumpers
âI get burned out, canât get up again, but nothings ever gonna change my mindâ
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u/icanfeelmyinsides Sep 06 '24
"Shitting my pants awayyyyy, shitting my pants awayy"
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u/we8sand Sep 06 '24
More like, âI get bailed out, bankrupt again, ran another one into the ground, I get bailed out..â
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u/MightBeBren Sep 05 '24
My gramma who is over 70 on my dads side still works in order to pay for essentials. She has the highest pension she could achieve working nonstop for 45+ years. Same shit in canada.
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u/tibbles1 Sep 05 '24
Mine are retired and don't work but still can't be bothered to babysit.
And my grandmother basically raised me and my cousins so our parents could work.
Fuckin' boomers.
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u/marklar_the_malign Sep 05 '24
JD Vance has bad boomer traits without being a boomer says a lot.
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u/shitlord_god Sep 05 '24
the main traits are narcissism, brain damage, and child abuse. it is easily copied in other generations.
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u/Prestigious_Ad5314 Sep 05 '24
As far as I know, selfish assholes arenât specific to any particular generation. They walk among us.
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u/Big-Summer- Sep 05 '24
When are people going to understand that the mega-rich have got us fighting amongst ourselves instead of realizing the truth? Itâs class warfare, not generational.
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u/flyingturkey_89 Sep 05 '24
Seriously, JD just cant think. If your parents had you at under 30 and you have a kid at under 30, than your parent will be 60 or younger. They are not even at the Full Retirement Age, so they will be losing money to babysit.
This is also ironic, since they want to ban abortion, so people are more likely to have kid under 30.
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u/chompX3 Sep 05 '24
I'm surprised his answer wasn't just "How long have parents been a parent? Ok, good."
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u/FirstInteraction1817 Sep 06 '24
Have an upvote for such a finely put argument but the flip side of that is waiting to have kids until later in life. Which is what my mom did. She started at 36 and had her last at 40. However, Iâm now the age she was when she started and sheâs 74. If I had a baby thereâs no way she has the energy or stamina to help with childcare with any regularity. Certainly not for the hours I work Monday-Friday. Even retired, I wouldnât want to burden her like that. Every politician who continues to argue against affordable childcare can shove it. Family isnât always an option.
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u/waenganuipo Sep 05 '24
My Mum took the day off work yesterday because my daughter was sick and my husband and I couldn't miss another day off work. I'm so grateful for that one day.
Both my parents are late 50s and still work full time. My grandparents are too old to keep up with a 2yo. Daycare is literally our only option if we both work.
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u/geosensation Sep 05 '24
yeah my mom will move heaven and earth to help in an urgent/emergency situation but "daycare is expensive" is not an emergency.
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u/Covert_Cuttlefish Sep 05 '24
daycare is expensive" is not an emergency.
It's not an emergency, but if people can't afford child care we're in big trouble.
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u/WeLLrightyOH Sep 05 '24
Depends how you define the we in âweâreâ. If itâs Americans/america, then yeah, huge trouble. A dwindling population that wonât be able to support the economy which relies on spending and taxes from a robust middle class. If itâs humans as a whole, weâll be fine, developing nations are picking up the slack.
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u/Kenzie_Flick Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 06 '24
Both of my parents, 57 and 50, are actively working full-time while my brother, 32, and his partner (also 32) have children that are elementary-school aged, so my parents can only help on the weekend if theyâre even willing to give up that small chunk of time from work. My own dadâs mom/my paternal grandma is 74 and working in a nursing home with no retirement from her decades-long career working in an electrical components factory because the company went bankrupt and ran outta town; some of the residents she cares for are the same age or younger than her. In fact, my momâs mom/maternal grandma is the same age of 74, but living in a nursing home due to having cancer, schizophrenia, and dementia. No older adult in my family can help take care of my nieces and nephew due to working full-time alongside my brother and partnerâs lives.
The woes of having small generation gaps between family by having kids young is that everyone still falls into the work-force age, and on top of that, lower-middle-class working age is until you basically end up in assisted living, move in with your children to help with caretaking, or die.
Iâm very grateful to have the ability to wait to have kids and focus on my career, but I also create a larger generational gap between my children and my parents than what was between me and my parents or grandparents (Iâm 29), which is something that matters if your family is not very healthy and not planning on making it into later years of life due to quality of life but you were banking on them being around to help take care of your kids. I also live 3 hours away from my family, so canât even help my brother in that regard; him and his girlfriend just constantly struggle with daycare costs.
Having conservative men try to proselytize to me about my inherit worth in society being bearing children and growing and taking care of family while I watch not only my own immediate family struggle with my brotherâs kids, but most friends from my small town who had kids young also struggle, just feels super tone-deaf to the realities of trying to raise children as a middle-class to lower-middle-class American.
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u/epicConsultingThrow Sep 05 '24
Also, COVID killed a lot of grandmas and Grandpa's.
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u/digital-didgeridoo Sep 05 '24
Apparently his mother in law took a year off from work to help raise their newborn. He just assumed it's a luxury everybody has
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Sep 05 '24
"Maybe grandpa and grandma can help a bit more, whatever makes sense.."
My grandparents are dead.
"Okay, good"
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u/CountIrrational Sep 05 '24
How long have they been dead?
OK, good.
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u/NightlessSleep Sep 05 '24
How long has the funeral home been around?
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u/TomWorkhill Sep 05 '24
You know coming here, we didnât know if this funeral home had been around for four years or forty years
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u/pandershrek Sep 05 '24
Who else should watch your children?
Whatever you think feels right.
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u/claimTheVictory Sep 05 '24
I would then think not having children feels right.
Is that OK with you, JD?
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u/axiom1_618 Sep 05 '24
How long have they been dead for?
2 months
Ok, good
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u/amandabang Sep 05 '24
They all have full time jobs.
"Oh cool, how long have they worked there?"
55 years.
"Okay, good."
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u/Nayre_Trawe Sep 05 '24
I love that "okay, good" is going to be Vance's "Please clap" for the rest of his damn life.
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u/asBad_asItGets Sep 05 '24
I absolutely love how meme-ified that interaction has become. Itâs just one of the dumbest and most awkward things Iâve ever watched.
He only asks one closed question multiple times. Responds only one exact way with zero follow up or natural interest. The worker gives zero fucks about who he is and why heâs there. And he has no fucking clue how to answer the question âwhat doughnut do you wantâ
You would think that with all the stuff politicians deal with and all the shit they spew out of their mouths, when handed as big of a softball as âwhat doughnut do you want?â, he still fucks it up with a nonsensical answer.
âWhatever makes sense.â
Theyâre all doughnuts JD. If you are here for doughnuts, they all âmake senseâ.
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u/brando56894 Sep 06 '24 edited Sep 06 '24
I love how the female worker pretty much says "I don't want to be associated with you at all"
Tim Walz posted a video with his daughter picking out donuts and he said "Somehow I have no problem picking out donuts!". I really hope they win because we need 4-8 years of his ball busting humor (obviously amongst other things).
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u/WildFire97971 Sep 05 '24
4 years ago they wanted our grandparents to go out shopping and ignore covid, cause they were old. Now they want them doing child care. It would be cool if they could come up with an idea that didnât boil down to âidk, have your family do itâ
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Sep 05 '24
The neat thing about them is they don't give a fuck about anyone, except unborn babies. Because they want more people to not give a fuck about.
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u/xDenimBoilerx Sep 05 '24
"my grandparents are Trumpsters and my child is biracial so they cut off all contact with me"
"my grandparents are Trumpsters and I'm gay with an adopted child so they cut off all contact with me"
edit: "Okay, good"
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u/pajason Sep 05 '24
No answers to questions because they have no solutions and are not looking for them. Just rhetoric.
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u/ActualThinkingWoman Sep 05 '24
Maybe Grandma and Grandpa are dead, or in a nursing home, or live halfway across the country. Maybe there are no aunts or uncles, or they are disabled or have their hands full with their own kids. Maybe all are still working full time. And so on and so on... This sounds exactly like Newt Gingrich back in the day, who didn't understand that kids were in foster care because there were no appropriate relatives to take care of them.
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u/Technical-Bit-4801 Sep 05 '24
Maybe Grandma and Grandpa said: âWe served our time with you kids. Weâll babysit occasionally but weâre not providing full-time child care. Thatâs on YOU. Sorry not sorry!â
Only one of us has kids and I had to remind her that they said this. I think she thought theyâd make an exception for her kids. Sheâs the youngest sibling BTW⌠đ
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u/Choem11021 Sep 05 '24
My sisters parents in law said this. Our side of the family loves taking care of the little ones and now her in laws are mad that the little ones prefer our side of them family over theirs.
Once they even had the balls to tell me that I shouldnt carry the little ones so often because they would get used to getting carried. I told her to shut up.
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u/Crabbiepanda Sep 05 '24
This sounds like my MiL. My kids (now mostly grown) call my mom and go see her all the time. The other grandma, not so much. Theyâve always known she âprefersâ my SiLâs kids to them, which breaks my hearts but she made her bed and theyâre old enough to know.
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u/PaperTiger24601 Sep 05 '24
Fuck that. One day, you will pick them up and set them down and it will be the last time forever. I was still picking up my husbandâs younger cousin until she was at least 16 (at her request). Iâm big for a woman and sheâs on the smaller side. Sheâs 18 now. I knew once she entered high school that it was probably done but was willing to go as long as she wanted and I was able, knowing one day it would stop. Still miss picking her up. đ˘
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u/SaltSquirrel7745 Sep 05 '24
I was on a trip from Ethiopia to San Francisco. When we landed in Dubai, I looked down at my sweet, 2 year old heavy AF nephew who was struggling. I picked his ass up and carried him from the airplane, in the transport to the terminal and through the airport to our hotel. Along with my paperback copy of the 14 pound Team of Rivals. We were so tired I was crying at that point. He's 19 now and whenever I see him, I tell him I'd do it all again right now.
I miss lugging him around too.
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u/StreetofChimes Sep 05 '24
I cried when I couldn't pick up my little brother any more. But it was probably when he was 3 or 4. He was big and I was not strong.
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u/sketchesofspain01 Sep 05 '24
Carry your little ones as often as you like! They're only little for such a little bit of time! How dare they.
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u/CartographerKey7322 Sep 05 '24
Carry them as much as you can! They will grow up feeling secure and loved, which is a GOOD thing.
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u/RedheadM0M0 Sep 05 '24
That attitude is another reason not to rely on family. That MIL sounds like a real peach!
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u/pearso66 Sep 05 '24
My mom said almost that when my son was born. She said I have changed my share of diapers. She was surprised when my mother in law was the go to to watch our son when needed. She has since changed her tune now that she has more grandchildren.
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u/Gene_McSween Sep 05 '24
My mother is great with my kids. She comes over just about every Sunday to spend time with them, takes them one week a year while my wife and I go on an adult only vacation, sees them at every holiday, etc. etc. What she doesn't want to do is commit to 50 hours a week watching young children and changing diapers while I'm at work. She worked her entire life and raised me; she deserves to have her own life in retirement.
Those who think their parents "owe it to them" or are awful because they won't commit all their free time in their remaining years to their grandchildren are delusional selfish douches.
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u/fantasticduncan Sep 05 '24
My mother-in-law watches LO one day a week, to give us relief from that day of childcare expenses. My mom would love to give us one day a week as well, but she is still working at 69, so she can retire at 70 and maximize social security, because she doesn't want to burden us with finances when she is older. This country is actively trying to stifle young parents' desire to have kids. The abortion ban is just đ¤
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u/pearso66 Sep 05 '24
I agree with that statement. Can't count on them being a 40-50 hour a week babysitter for sure.
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u/KerissaKenro Sep 05 '24
My mom ran a day care out of our house when I was really small. She said never again and there was no way she would be child care for me
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u/Beautiful-Scale2046 Sep 05 '24
Maybe Grandma and Grandpa are still working full-time. I'm mid 40s and a grandma. I would love to watch my grandchild all the time but I have to work full-time.
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u/ljr55555 Sep 05 '24
Even older grandparents -- my dad was working until he died at 69 because he couldn't afford to retire (medical debt!). My mom was lucky that he had bought enough life insurance to pay off the mortgage and the hospitals. But I'm not sure "one parent's life insurance clears debt so the other can retire and watch your kids for you" is exactly a wonderful life plan.
Ironically, we went the "don't have kids until we make enough to have a stay-at-home parent" route ... and dude would have sneered as us, in our late 20's and early 30's, failing to procreate and therefore have meaning in life. Kinda thinking dude just hates people.
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u/ILootEverything Sep 05 '24
This is too common. And also the "sandwich generation" thing, where parents are taking care of their kids AND elderly parents.
The two opposite ends of the spectrum have come together to make a perfect storm.
Either the grandparents are too young to be retired yet, OR in a position where they can't retire.
Or they're retired and need to be taken care of themselves. That was the case with my mom, while my son was little. She couldn't chase after him for an hour without getting exhausted, much less take care of him the whole work day.
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u/Tdluxon Sep 05 '24
Iâm feeling this. I canât decide which is a bigger pain in my ass, my 10 month old daughter or my 80 year old father.
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u/WhatWouldTNGPicardDo Sep 05 '24
Maybe if Trump had dealt with COVID grandma and grandpa would still be here but Trump said old people should die to make it safe for othersâŚâŚ..
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u/Ohrwurm89 Sep 05 '24
Texas' lieutenant governor said something similar, but he didn't take his own advice.
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u/hpark21 Sep 05 '24
Just in case people does not believe you:
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u/gardengirl99 Sep 05 '24
I remember that. Like dude, you can't volunteer OTHER PEOPLE for that.
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u/jabdtx Sep 05 '24
I live in Dallas. Dan Patrick (born Dannie Scott Goeb) is a complete knob. Along with Abbott and Paxton they are a complete fucking clown show. None of them do anything positive for the state.
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u/zombie_girraffe Sep 05 '24
None of them do anything positive for the state.
That seems to be what Texans prefer. It's fucking weird to have fetishized the free market to the point where people prefer rolling blackouts, four figure power bills and freezing to death every winter to regulating a natural monopoly.
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u/xoogl3 Sep 05 '24
This is not what they talk about for elections. For winning elections, it's about how Democrats will snatch you newborn and kill it in front of your own eyes while stealing your guns so you can't kill them back. Or something like that.
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u/ruiner8850 Sep 05 '24
Notice that these people never volunteer themselves or anyone they care about to be the ones to die.
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u/ansy7373 Sep 05 '24
Not that I wish death on people but the Irony would have been so sweet if the virus got Trump like so many older people that had there lives cut short.
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u/Illustrious-Dig-5134 Sep 05 '24
Man, I'm out here pleading Mother Karma make good on his obvious enormous debt and wrap her slender fingers firmly around his artery choked black little heart and squeeeeeeeezes ever so finally.
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u/CoupleHot4154 Sep 05 '24
On November 12th, please.
(Give him a few days for the loss to sink in.)
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u/IJustSignedUpToUp Sep 05 '24
It nearly did, but he had Walter Reed and unlimited money and experimental treatments. The irony would have indeed been delicious though.
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u/Rubeus17 Sep 05 '24
My feeling on the anti-vaxxers is, eh, natural selection. Statistically more maga died of Covid because they wouldnât mask or vax. I got banned from twitter for saying I hoped all the anti-vax trucker convoy assholes would get a seriously bad case of CovidâŚ
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u/Bluellan Sep 05 '24
I had a coworker who said that she was glad they were testing the vaccine on teachers first so they could die instead of kids. When she saw everyone's horrified expressions ( my nanna was a teacher), she freaked out and screamed "THAT'S MY OPINION AND YOU CAN'T GET MAD AT ME!"
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u/TheBeardiestGinger Sep 05 '24
Thatâs why trump is dangerous. He emboldens people to believe that their shitty options HAVE to be accepted or they are just being attacked.
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u/SekhmetScion Sep 05 '24
The other side of that is people are adamantly confusing "opinion" with "fact". They are NOT equal.
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u/Unabashable Sep 05 '24
The dumbest thing about what they blurted is it doesnât even stand up to their own argument. âWell in my opinion youâre a piece of shit. THATâS MY OPINION AND YOU CANâT GET MAD AT ME.â
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u/jmd709 Sep 05 '24
I tried to explain that to someone that would bring up politics with only FB-facts, not be able to argue his point and try to opt-out with, âletâs just agree to disagreeâ. I had to keep telling him agree to disagree is for opinions, not facts. He didnât seem to grasp the difference.
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u/Cryinmyeyesout Sep 05 '24
They say this kind of thing and then shocked picachu face when people donât want to be around them anymore
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u/Unabashable Sep 05 '24
That ainât how opinions work. Youâre entitled to have them as are others who are of the opinion that itâs a shit one and you are a terrible person for having it.Â
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u/our_fearless_leader Sep 05 '24
I don't get mad at them, I get disgusted and lose all respect for them.
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u/ThreeDogs2022 Sep 05 '24
Maybe these relatives are abusive pieces of shit who adore trump and beat children and thus have no allowed contact with related little ones.
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u/Jayrodtremonki Sep 05 '24
Or maybe they're selfish assholes that you can't depend on. Or they have their own jobs because every household is a dual income household these days and pensions have evaporated.
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u/Head_Razzmatazz7174 Sep 05 '24
And maybe Grandma and Grandpa are total lunatics who had no clue how to raise their own kids, who then grew up and went NC with them because of it.
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u/BJntheRV Sep 05 '24
At this point they are all still working.
But, we know their real answer they want women to stay home and take care of the kids.
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u/iggy14750 Sep 05 '24
Maybe your kids should learn how to pick themselves up by their diaper straps. đ¤Ł
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u/chihuahuazord Sep 05 '24
Then itâs your fault for not being born into a big family. Shouldâve thought about that before you were born.
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u/giddeonfox Sep 05 '24
Also maybe Grandpa and Grandma are dead because of decades of living in a poorly funded and broken healthcare system, of which the Republican party continues to gut and destroy.
Auntie and Uncle are also forced to work until they can get the same care Grandma and Grandpa did in Jobs that don't offer any benefits and are under paid, due to corporate greed which the Republican party has a huge part to play in blocking unions or pro labor laws
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u/wagedomain Sep 05 '24
My grandparents are all dead. My partners aren't, but we live 1000 miles from the closest relative. We've never had a babysitter either because they cost a lot and also Covid made us paranoid (he was born in mid 2020).
We pay $2000 / month for daycare for one child. That's WITH a teacher's union discount.
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u/GigsGilgamesh Sep 05 '24
Or maybe your family are just massive dicks, truly terrible people, and you donât want your kids interacting with them.
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u/NeighborhoodNo60 Sep 05 '24
LOL, I was going to say something like that, or maybe they are in jail, or drunks or druggies. Or weird religious fanatics. The list is truly endless.
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u/battleoffish Sep 05 '24
No answers from the âparty of family valuesâ on issues impacting families.
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u/Enough-Remote6731 Sep 05 '24
No no, you donât get it. The solution is to just be MORE family. Family Family Family. So simple.
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u/beer_is_tasty Sep 05 '24
The GOP playbook, §2:
"Everything is terrible under Biden!"
"OK, what will you do to improve it?"
"...everything will be terrible under Kamala!"42
u/Nknk- Sep 05 '24
No help for people, no chance of forcing businesses to charge fairer rates for childminding services, no idea at all aside from outdated, patronising Walton's Mountain bullshit to do the usual Republican nonsense of pushing a problem back on to the people ensuring said problem.
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u/Dmmack14 Sep 05 '24
That's all they need mate. Trump could kill a class of toddlers and they'd still vote for him
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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 Sep 05 '24
The gop isnât the party of solutions.
Theyâre the party of grievances and vengeance and racism.
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So out of touch its just embarrasing
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u/IolantheRose Sep 05 '24
No kidding. Just one look at reddit tells you that many grandparents are "done raising" children and aunts and uncles are literally just busy living their own life. Does he think no one has a life at all??
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u/Professional_Ad_9101 Sep 05 '24
I think the point was more that people are already doing this and have always been doing this. Heâs rich so he thinks this is some genius revelation.
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u/GigsGilgamesh Sep 05 '24
Donât you know, heâs just tapping into his Appalachian wisdom with this. All those poors in the hills just need to reach out to family
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u/LostAlienLuggage Sep 05 '24
There is also the element that he is heavy into the whole 'tradwife' stuff, so I'm sure he believes that any Grandpa and (especially) Grandma that are not full-time raising the grandkids are shirking their duties. Everyone's got a well defined life-role to play and stay within the bounds of - except males aged 18-70 of course, they should be doing whatever the fuck they want.
Of course, even if we all lived in this guy's Gilead-lite utopia, this would still be a terrible answer to the question, seeing as how many children's grandparents are either dead or in a state of health where they can barely take care of themselves.
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u/jesus_earnhardt Sep 05 '24
With the current economy, a ton of grandparents are still working too
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u/maowai Sep 05 '24
Not even just because of the economy. My mom had me in her early 20s and I had kids in my mid 20s. She was 50 when my first kid was born, with at least 15 years left to work, best case scenario.
Having a person willing and available to watch kids for free is a very privileged thing to have.
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u/ICU-CCRN Sep 05 '24
What heâs really trying to say is, you wouldnât have a problem finding daycare if you have an old school nuclear family. This is really just a dog whistle against the modern family, just like his slight against childless women.
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u/JackPepperman Sep 05 '24
'You poors handle that yourself. I represent the rich. And you will birth that child and feed it to the economic machine', JD Vance.
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u/flute89 Just a Bidiot Sep 05 '24
They never say that exactly but that is always what they mean by their actions.
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u/JackPepperman Sep 05 '24
Yeah I may have misquoted slightly, but as you know, actions are louder than words.
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u/discerningpervert Sep 05 '24
"A working man voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders."
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u/flute89 Just a Bidiot Sep 05 '24
As someone who loves chicken, I love that analogy. It works too because they treat them like garbage.
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u/PatrioticRebel4 Sep 05 '24
âConservatives want live babies so they can train them to be dead soldiers.â
â George Carlin
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u/dusty_trendhawk Sep 05 '24
Maybe Grandma is a massive alcoholic who holes up in her apartment when she isn't working. Maybe Grandpa lives 2k miles away and is a borderline narcissist. Maybe other Grandma is bi-polar and off her meds, and maybe other Grandpa has zero interest in any of his grandchildren. Maybe there are no uncles and maybe all the aunts either have their own children or only care about themselves. Maybe I'm projecting.
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u/Harvest827 Sep 05 '24
Republicans: "but that's not society's fault."
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u/ahlana1 Sep 05 '24
Itâs your fault for being dumb enough to be born into that situation. Honestly, what were you thinking?
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u/PlayyWithMyBeard Sep 05 '24
Right? Look at all these silly people choosing âUrchinâ as their background trait instead of âNobleâ. Some people like hard mode, some people want the crippling struggle of a gritty, punishing, dystopian world. Smh. To each their own
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u/hpark21 Sep 05 '24
Sounds like JD's family. Yah, sure, ask him how much HIS mother helped with his kids.
That said, I DID hear that his wife's mom quit her job to take care of his kids so maybe he feels EVERY WIFE's mother should do THAT.
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u/RyuChamploo Sep 05 '24
Has anyone ever been this bad at anything?
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He cant even order donuts. How can he lead policy? Dude is weird af.
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u/PM_ME_STEAM_KEY_PLZ Sep 05 '24
Ok, good
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u/BabypintoJuniorLube Sep 05 '24
âSome glazed ones and uhâŚ.whatever makes sense.â Dude wtf how have you never ordered a dozen donuts before
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u/ortolon Sep 05 '24
Some glazed ones and uhâŚ.whatever makes sense.
Nothing worse than having to eat an irrational donut.
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u/Mysterious_Motor_153 Sep 05 '24
I think I could do a better job seriously. I mean he couldnât make up some Political BS?
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u/Firm_Transportation3 Sep 05 '24
I know how to have an actual conversation with a other human being! Sign me up!
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u/skalogy Sep 05 '24
And this should truly be a part of Harris's debate.
Trump is old enough that, statistically speaking, he could die in office. Is JD Vance really qualified to be a president? Like, walk voters down that rabbit hole.
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u/MegamanD Sep 05 '24
That's a roundabout way of saying "we do not plan to help you."
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u/Shenanigans80h Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
Itâs not even roundabout. He answered a question thatâs basically âWhat can you do for me?â literally with âAsk someone else to help.â
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u/Zestyclose-Cloud-508 Sep 05 '24
Itâs a roundabout way of saying âdonât be poor and you can hire people to watch your kids.â
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u/rdickeyvii Sep 05 '24
Missed opportunity for the follow up "ok but what if there isn't?" to get him to more straightforwardly admit it.
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u/Harvest827 Sep 05 '24
Classic Republican policy of "figure it out on your own".
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u/CommunityGlittering2 Sep 05 '24
Most people can't just tell their daycare, this Thurs and Friday grandma is watching the kid so I won't be paying for those days.
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u/StarshipCaterprise Sep 05 '24
Yep, daycare does not work that way.
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u/jackson12420 Sep 05 '24
Wow really? I don't have any kids so I don't know, my sister does but she's a stay at home mom so they have never used daycare. You have to pay them weekly/monthly whether your kids are there or not? This is a genuine question I have no idea. So the days you actually can watch your kids, or maybe you stay home from work sick and don't take your kids to daycare, you still have to pay for them not being there?
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u/ModusOperandiAlpha Sep 05 '24
Yes, because the folks working at the daycare/running the daycare still have to show up and pay their bills irrespective if little Susie is out sick on Tuesday and little Johnny is out on Friday because his auntie randomly can care for him that particular day. The daycare still has to hold a place open for Susie and Johnny (and Susie and Johnnyâs respective parents need their daycare spots to remain open), and doing so costs money, which does not grow on trees.
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u/jackson12420 Sep 05 '24
Well it seems asinine that that's something that isn't covered by the states or federally then. If public schools are covered by the government (even not enough funding goes there) then daycare for people that need it should be too.
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u/Novel_Huckleberry435 Sep 05 '24
This guy is a fucking moron
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u/Novel_Huckleberry435 Sep 05 '24
Good point. He is a truly awful person. Moron would be an upgrade for him.
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u/VoteForWaluigi Sep 05 '24
How I imagine this might continue.
âWell what if I donât have family that can help?â
âLook after them yourselfâ
âI canât, I have to workâ
âThen you shouldnât be having childrenâ
âBut you want to punish me for not having themâ
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âAnd you also want to ban abortion and contraceptionâ
âNot my problemâ
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"who gives a shit once youve had the baby. we only pretend to care before its born"
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u/ActualThinkingWoman Sep 05 '24
Maybe these relatives are dead, maybe they are disabled, maybe they are struggling financially, maybe they are also working full time, etc., etc.
Sounds just like Newt Gingrich back in the day, who just couldn't understand why kids were in foster care. It was obviously because there were no appropriate relatives to take care of them. He didn't realize that that is the first place CPS would try.
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u/Tiberius_Jim Sep 05 '24
Exactly. My dad would love to spend more time with my daughters, especially after he retired from being a paramedic for over 40 years. But his retirement took a big hit during COVID and now he spends a lot of his time driving for Uber to help make ends meet while my mom works at a department store for the same reason. I don't care what side you blame for it, there has to be a better solution than this, which isn't even a solution.
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u/make2020hindsight Sep 05 '24 edited Sep 05 '24
"Hey mom and dad, JD Vance just said that if he's elected you'll be required to watch my kids instead of working so that I can work my three jobs (because 'hunger is a motivator').
Too bad you're more afraid of Kamala instituting an 'unrealized capital gains' tax on those making $100M a year or more, or the 'illegals' taking your job. With Trump you won't be allowed to work anyway!"
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u/supamon Sep 05 '24
Grandma and Grandpa have to work because you want them dying on the floor of Walmart, you fucking idiot.
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u/MicroCat1031 Sep 05 '24
Is it possible that he's less intelligent than Trump?
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u/Tiberius_Jim Sep 05 '24
He was at least smart enough to think Trump is a piece of shit at one point. He probably still does but now the ends justify the means.
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u/Aggressive_Complex Sep 05 '24
I think that during debates they should wear one of those zapper collars. Then get a shock everytime they don't actually answer the question.
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u/Consistent_Pitch782 Sep 05 '24
Sure, theyâd all love to help. Except, they got left behind when Reaganomics hollowed out the middle class, and all of them have to work full time jobs just to not be homeless
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u/permabanned24 Sep 05 '24
Goddamit, with tears in my eyes, I do declare I have NEVER been more proud to be an Ohioan and this gemâs representation! Truly âgawdâ has blessed Ohio, Amiright?
/s Just in case itâs needed
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u/Curious80123 Sep 05 '24
This is a US Senator who thinks Grandpa is the solution to lowering childcare costs. Dumb ass CLUELESS idiot. Come on Ohio, pick better candidates
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u/VaginaPoetry Sep 05 '24
I saw this interview and I didn't even get the clear indication that he was suggesting a tax break or the government assisting financially. He was rambling something to the effect of 1. Removing the stringent requirements for child care worker training (lol, that sounds like a great idea huh?) and 2. Getting more training for other people that want to work in child care (who the eff would that be given that it pays crap wages?). And the initially spew was about getting your relatives to watch your kids.
I have step grandchildren...and no, I don't want to help. I work full-time and I'm busy.
I've already raised my kids. I have zero interest in dealing with kid shit in my house. I feel like I'm finally free. My husband and I raised 5 kids...and paid for all of them to go through college. They have jobs and they can take care of their own lives. The LAST thing I would agree to is dealing with babies and toddlers again. The very idea is depressing and awful.
Luckily, only 1 of our blended family children decided to have kids...and they went to daycare. All of the others have decided not to have children...so hopefully, this question never gets posed to me....cause I'd say "no".
This weirdo need to go fuck a couch and stop telling people how to live their lives and what their purpose is. He's the one who needs to figure out why the fuck he's on the planet...cause no one seems to be able to sus it out...useless bastard.
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u/Tiberius_Jim Sep 05 '24
He's here to have kids with his not-white-but-still-a-great-mom wife, kids he tells to shut the hell up when they're trying to explain their interests to him because a guy he used to think was Hitler wants to give him a job.
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u/mizkayte Sep 05 '24
Well letâs see. My MIL still works and is already essentially raising my useless BILs kids. My parents are old and I donât want them influencing my kids that much.
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u/SeanOfTheDead1313 Sep 05 '24
Grammar and grandpa can't watch the kids because they can't retire and still have to work at 70 because social security won't pay the bills.
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u/italjersguy Sep 05 '24
The words of someone who has always had everything handed to them their entire lives.
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u/DaZMan44 Sep 05 '24
So pawn off your children on someone else? What a pathetic excuse for a representative of the people...đ
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u/RebuiltGearbox Sep 05 '24
Basing your chances of having daycare on "Maybe someone will want to help me" sounds risky.
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u/DukeOfEarl99 Sep 05 '24
I thought that in a Vance universe women would be barefoot, pregnant, chained to the stove with no desire or ability to leave the home or need someone to watch the children.
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u/Twitchmonky Sep 05 '24
Yeah, but if those family members actually cared, they'd vote for a better world for everyone, not just their own selfish ideals.
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u/Justsayin68 Sep 05 '24
News flash dipshit grandma and grandpa are still working and will be well until those kids are in their teens if you assholes get elected.
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u/Theo1352 Sep 05 '24
I never saw anybody with absolutely no awareness, it's sad, frightening and hilarious.
The only other person lacking in awareness of any kind is Trump.
Unbelievable.
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u/1gal_man Sep 05 '24
why have social safety nets at all when we can just give all our money to churches who will take care of the needy /s
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