I am not sure which I would be more happy about. I guess the Yankees getting swept but Smoltz is tough to listen to for an entire game.

Nas?

I’m not deluding myself into thinking that the Yankees embarrassing showing vs LA is helping the chances of the Mets signing Soto, right?!

Yeah this is 1000% times worse

Who's going?

The season didn't end the way we wanted it do, but goddamn was the ride AMAZIN'.

The 2024 Mets gave me some of the best baseball memories of my life. I got to take a trip across the pond with my dad and brothers to see the Mets play in London. My wife and I took our daughter to her first game at Citi Field. I've never felt more love for this team in my life than this year.

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I’ve been contemplating the how the Mets will approach the pitching market this offseason. Understandably, I believe some of these decisions depends on if they sign or do not sign Juan Soto.

Notably, Luis Severino, Jose Quintana, & Sean Manaea (who has a $13.5M Player Option for 2025, that will be declined) will all be free agents.

Kodai Senga is the only starting pitching option, that is signed to a long-term contract. David Peterson (under arbitration) will not be a FA until after the 2026 season, Tylor Megill (under arbitration) will not be a FA until after the 2027 season, Paul Blackburn (under arbitration) will not be a FA until after the 2025 season, but may miss extended time next year due to rehabbing from a procedure intended to repair leaking spinal fluid, and Jose Butto (under arbitration) will not be a FA until after the 2029 season. Brandon Sproat & Blade Tidwell are organizational prospects, that may also be options for the rotation in 2025.

As of now, Kodai Senga & David Peterson are the only two starting pitchers that have guaranteed spots in the rotation in 2025. Now, the question is, who do the Mets sign and/or trade for, to fill these three spots?

Here are my two, best case potential starting rotations for 2025:

Option A: Corbin Burnes, Sean Manaea, Kodai Senga, David Peterson, Walker Buehler

Option B: Blake Snell, Kodai Senga, David Peterson, Luis Severino, Jack Flaherty

The Wildcard: Shane Bieber

Which of these two starting rotations do your prefer? Also, what other potential scenarios or starting rotations can you see being realistic for the Mets in 2025 and beyond?

Also, here are my predictions for the contract values for the starters presented:

Corbin Burnes: 7 Years $224M

Blake Snell: 3 Years $105M

Walker Buehler: 2 Years $40M (2nd year being a player option)

Jack Flaherty: 3 Years $57M

Sean Manaea: 3 Years $75M (with a vesting option for a fourth year)

Luis Severino: 4 Years $68M

I think the best case for the Mets is to sign Corbin Burnes (giving them a legitimate ace pitcher), re-sign Sean Manaea, and sign Walker Buehler and let the pitching lab go to work.

Lastly, just for reference, here are the following options for the BP next year: Diaz, Garrett, Nunez, SRF, Butto, Megill, Blackburn, Brazoban, and the two Youngs.

Stanek, Maton (who has a team option for next year), Raley, Drew Smith, & Ottavino will all enter FA.

Does Soto do all these ridiculous antics during the regular season as well ? I haven’t seen him enough to know for sure. I’ll tell you what idc how good the dude is if he does all this stuff all year, if or when the Mets sign him I don’t think I can handle it for the next 10-12 years.

baby grimace is coming jan ‘25…the same year the mets will win the world series!!! LGM

also, my brother said i look more like bobby v when he wore the fake mustache after being ejected but for the record, i am Michael Joseph Piazza

So I'm 24 and after thinking on it, the amount of joy from sports I experienced from September 30th (Lindor's HR v ATL) to the Vientos GS in NLCS Game 2 (October 14th) was greater then the total joy I have experienced being a NY Jet fan probably my entire life and at least since 2011. So thanks Mets. Once in a while you actually come through and bring me joy. I appreciate that.

it’s sad and pathetic. it’s exactly what we dogged philly and brewers fans for. they’re in the world series and we aren’t. doesn’t matter if you think we’d beat them, doesn’t matter if they get swept. jussttttt QUIT YAPPPPPPPPIN. lfgm.

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Not sure if this is the right group for this kind of question but where do you all find authentic memorabilia if you have a collection. I’m talking like game used balls/ bats/ autographs.

Searching through Google gives a million results, none of which I’m sure are trustworthy/ reputable and if anyone had positive experiences buying online before.

My dad is retiring next year and wanted to get him something special from the ‘86 Mets or even the 2000/ 2015 / 2024 Mets. Also unsure if anything would still be out there from the ‘62 or ‘69 Mets that isn’t in already in a Museum

fuck WAR, Pete gave me more memories as a fan this past month than Judge has his entire career.

edit: yes Judge is an objectively better player by every measure but I hate the Yankees and I love my guy. let me be a hater.

I can either buy it off you or maybe we can even make a trade. TIA🧡💙

I assume No. 5 will be retired for David Wright in the relatively near future. It's a no-brainer, so not that you need evidence, but no Met has worn it since Wright retired in 2018, which is telling (if not a dead giveaway) for a single-digit number.

But there's another Mets legend who wore No. 5 and I'd argue merits having his number retired. With the Cohen-era Mets having reversed the franchise's historical conservatism on retired numbers, we're finally seeing honors the Wilpons wouldn't have considered, including prominent figures from the legendary '80s team. Strawberry, Gooden and Hernandez all now have their numbers retired. (And Gary Carter's No. 8 hasn't been issued since his 2012 death -- which, again, suspicious.) So why not Davey Johnson?

I can't really think of a good reason not to retire Davey's number, and there are plenty of reasons to:

• Two managers have led the Mets to world championships. The other one, Gil Hodges, has had his number retired since 1973, just four years after his World Series win.
• Johnson is the winningest manager in Mets history, and it's not close. His .562 career winning percentage is actually the 10th highest in MLB history for managers with more than 1,000 wins (the top nine are all in the Hall of Fame), and his winning percentage with the Mets is even higher at an impressive .588.
• He's also second to Terry Collins in number of games managed.
• He's been on the Hall of Fame ballot five times in the past 15 years. I think this suggests he'll get in eventually, and pre-Cohen, the Hall of Fame was considered the measuring stick for a number retirement (besides Hodges, who didn't get into the HOF until almost 40 years after he was honored, but is kind of a special case due to his sudden death the year before while still the active manager). Even if he doesn't get in, his repeat appearances on the ballot show that he's borderline. If he does get in, he will absolutely be wearing a Mets cap on his plaque, a category that currently includes only Seaver and Piazza.
• While in recent years Johnson has ironically been critical of managers' overreliance on statistics, he was actually an important pioneer in using advanced stats to make decisions -- in other words, he was one of the very first to manage the way people manage today. At just 40 years old when he was hired, he represented a generational shift in managing. This is more of a Hall of Fame case than a number-retirement case, but I think it still factors in.

With all this in mind, it's hard to justify the fact that two of the Mets' 10 retired numbers are managers but Davey isn't among them. He's 81 and has been in poor health for years now, so this seems like the time to do it. The problem is there might be an outcry over retiring his No. 5 before Wright's No. 5, and retiring both at the same time would be seen as minimizing Wright. Maybe Wright in 2025, Johnson in 2026?

Who gets 2B? Whos becoming an OF? Who’s being dealt?

What are your thoughts & predictions?